It seems there are a lot of bugs in open software. Or may this is trick to force client to buy a support? Ant build uses hibernate3.jar from jboss-4.0.4.GA/server/default/lib during build, but have it's own hibernate3.jar in jbpm-3.1/lib. The first one is of version 3.2.0., the last - 3.1. Why? In userguide (jbpm.pdf) mentioned jbpm must work with 3.1. So the question is again why build uses hibernate3.jar from jboss server distribution? If you create build.properties file in userhome why ant read it but ignore it? If you try to build an examples for bpel extension ant deploys them into default configuration not in jbpm, but these small fact not mentioned in manual. Some guys recommend to use web-console for testing result of deployment of samples, but it doesn't work in jbpm configuration. It seems it is not an easy task to place it into jbpm folder. And the problem with versioning in Java - it remains forever? The samples for JBOSS uses 1.4.2_x, for jbpel 1.5.x. JBPEL extension uses another type of license good this worse to mention in the readme or userguide, but how it prevents to build one starters-kit with all in one bundle including working samples. And the last there are a lot of configuration xml files in many folders. But from the guide is not clear which of them really works in what the case. Want to move to open source but how? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3970881#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...