I downloaded "embedded-jboss-beta3.zip" and the hibernate has no version information. Also, when I need to put a fix in hibernate, I can't just drop in the hibernate jar. I need to explode this hibernate-all.jar and then put it back together. 1. Very dangerous to be deploying stuff where we don't know which version it is. 2. hibernate-all makes it hard to replace any jars that need a quick fix to a bug where you can't wait for open source to put out another version. Is this going to be fixed? thanks, dean View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4133801#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...