anonymous wrote : So, you're saying a Data Grid listing with 100 rows is going to take like many seconds to render? | Yes depending on how many controls you are putting inside table, and how man times you invoke EL I've seen ~3-5 sec rendering phase times even with 100 rows (on 2GHz PC) Most of the invocations from EL are getters so might you could have something like invokeGetter() method which will skip much of logic which is designed to support generic invocations in ReflectionUtil.java http://viewvc.jboss.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/jboss-el/trunk/src/org/jboss/e... Was there any stress testing and profiling done on JBoss EL previously? Thanks View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4084855#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...