Pete, Sorry about the late response - anyway, so far, so good - your change to the classloader appears to have solved the problem. I haven't hit all my use cases yet, but the ones I have (about 50%) are working now. If you recall our discussion about where the jars go, I've now successfully removed the jars that I were both in the ear and war - only the war has things like facelets, seam-mail, etc. Thanks, Brad Smith View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4027145#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...