Gavin, As always, thanks for the quick response! I hope I didn't come accross too negatively in my original post - sometimes sarcasm is my primary form of communication. So far I am very impressed with Seam, and I suspect that will only improve as I dig deeper! Now I have to dig into that facelets example and figure out how that works! I truly prefer the Tapestry model for tags, which I think Facelets provides (more or less) for JSF. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3960856#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...