Positive. In fact I forgot to set it back to true when I tried it with myFaces, and it still worked. If the contactlist example works out of the box with the 1.2RI, then perhaps I'm configuring it wrong in jboss. Here's what I did to run it: * cvs checkout and build seam * delete myfaces* from /c/jboss/server/default/deploy/jbossweb-tomcat55.sar/jsf-libs * copy jsf-api.jar and jsf-impl.jar from the RI to jsf-libs * copy el-api and el-ri.jar from seam/facelets/lib to jsf-libs * edit seam/build.properties to change the tomcat/jboss paths and change jbossHasMyFacesLifecycleBug to false * cd to examples/contactlist * edit resources/WEB-INF/web.xml to use the RI ConfigureListener instead of the myfaces one * edit resources/components.properties and verify that myFacesLifecycleBug is indeed false * edit build.xml to keep it from copying el-api and el-ri into the build's WEB-INF/lib (otherwise I get some nasty tracebacks about loader constraint violations) * ant deploy * navigate to http://localhost:8080/seam-contactlist/ * click one of the contacts * see nothing but blank fields Could the problem be related to having the EL stuff in jsf-libs and not the application? I've never made it work the other way around -- I can paste that traceback if you want. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3979186#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...