I have the following EJB QL select r.channel.id, sum(se.currentListeners), r from Request r left join fetch r.channel c left join fetch r.stats s left join fetch s.statsEntries se where r.createdDate > :startDate and r.createdDate < :endDate group by r.channel i want to get rid of the r in the select list but it wont let me, can anyone tell me why? in normal sql i wouldnt need the r in the select list. The problem is it takes time to instantiate those Request objects and its totally wasted. I want it to look like this: select r.channel.id, sum(se.currentListeners) from Request r left join fetch r.channel c left join fetch r.stats s left join fetch s.statsEntries se where r.createdDate > :startDate and r.createdDate < :endDate group by r.channel lovely that would involve no wasted effort and speed up my query. Can anyone help me i dont understand why i need the r in the select list, is hibernate dumb? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3994954#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...