cool... thank you ... and after i read the seam reference more times ...i can get the concept of conversation context.. indeed, state is very important but the reference not discribe the conversation particularly enough ... hope in future it can describe the case that without conversation context , how we did, and within conversation context, how we fix the problem and simpified the coding View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3987470#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...