I'd like to make a suggest to include any future Seam release the build/support libs of any third-party framework that Seam uses. For instance, with Drools, Seam (2CR1) only includes 4 lib jars: antlr-3.0b7.jar drools-compiler-4.0.0.MR2.jar drools-core-4.0.0.MR2.jar janino-2.5.6.jar mvel14-1.2beta16.jar But, when users like myself needs to use the rest of the drools jar like drool-decisiontables, drools-jsr94, and other compatible lib package, we have to go search and retrieve these old build/parts one by one. It's tedious and lots of trials and errors to get all these things together. Lots of other project won't keep their old drop for long. So the need to keep these things together with Seam is real. You can make it build a lib directory after download just like Spring Framework. Thanks, I found the only update that works with my Seam CR1: Drools 4.0.0, mvel14-1.2rc1, jxl2.4.2 View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4114306#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...