This a big step backwards in my opinion. I have a similar situation to the above, although my factories were for application scope, not even at the user session level. Now to populate these select boxes I will have to hit the DB over and over. I guess the "widest" scope I can cache these now will be at the conversation level. I'll give that a go. Did Felix create a JIRA, or would you like me to? thanks, Daniel. "petemuir" wrote : Yeah, the way I reimplemented it requires that the entities you feed to the entityconverter are managed. I updated the docs to reflect this. File a JIRA issue and I'll see if I can work around this (won't be for 1.3 though) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4058535#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...