you need 9 jar files? Seam-hibernate is becoming a big dependency joke. do you have any idea know how many jar files (some of which are hidden in a gigantic jar) required for a hello world application in Seam? now you need 9 more. Hibernate has the same issues. Jboss is also bloated with its own jar hell. i really wanted to try seam, now i am not sure. And a side note: i needed to enter a ridiculous registration form to post here. not happy. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4010401#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...