That is currently not doable with the entity framework in Seam and something I recently discussed with Gavin. You can't call getInstance() in either a page action or an @Create method, the identifier binding will happen afterwards (if it's a page parameter). Really, there is no obvious solution except not calling getInstance() that early. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4094661#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...