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"nicolasduminil" wrote : Chris,
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| Firstable, while the hyperlinks you posted in your message point to several documents
and articles, no one of them doesn't respond to my questions. I patiently red these
several dozens of unrelated document and I can tell you that none doesn't explain
neither what the "*" in the *-objects.xml stands for, nore why once a potlet
deployed, one is not able anymore to change the name in the file jboss-app.xml and to
redeploy the portlet. Of course, I have red these documents before having posted my
question.
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| Second, as you claim having red my message, it doesn't seem so. If you did, you
would have understood that the problem doesn't have anything to do with Richfaces.
But, in order to give to an eventual interlocutor as much details as possible, I explained
that the application I was talking about has beed originally generated by the JBoss
Portlet Bridge maven archetype.
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| Third, complaining about the poor quality of the products, even if there are
"free", is absolutelly natural, given the huge publicity campaign you're
doing to show how great JBoss stuff is. But from my personal experience, as well as the
one of my colleagues at Simplex Software, a company having several very competent
architects and developpers Java/J2EE, JBoss stuff could be successfully used in the
simples cases, for small prototypes. But as soon as one needs to use them in "real
life", lots of bugs apear, preventing the user to really take advantage. And the
thing you're calling at JBoss "documentation" doesn't help.
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| We, as architects and developpers, we are aware by the fact that we don't have to
build strategic solutions based on this kind of products, unless we are subscribing to
your support services, in which case the total cost of the operations would be higher than
if we were be using commercial, well documented products. But the management is taking
"ad literam" JBoss advertizing and thinks that a software company may really
dramatically decrease the costs by using a free application server and portal server.
Which is not the case because a big effort is required in order to get things working.
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| For example, in 2006 we started a portal project and, as BEA customers, we naturally
wanted to continue using WebLogic Portal which has given to us entirelly satisfaction. But
management forced us to use JBoss Portal because it's free. We spent several weeks
trying to get things working and during this time we weren't focusing on our project.
After several weeks, we went back to WebLogic Portal and Workshop. Now we started a new
project wirh JBoss Portal and, as things are going, there is a very strong probability
that in a couple of weeks to go back to BEA/Oracle stuff.
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| Instead of writing you're long message you could simply give the answers I was
waiting for. But in this case we wouldn't of course buy consulting from JBoss. As a
matter of fact, if the documentation is well done and if the forum gives people the
answers they need, who would buy anymore consulting from you ? This is to say that JBoss
products are free as well as they don't work and there is not any know-how. But if one
wants them to really work, well, in this case they are not any more free, they become even
more expansive than the comercial ones.
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| Now, to come back to my questions, please don't bother too much. It apears that:
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| i) the "*" in front of -object.xml stands for nothing.
| ii) the problem that I signaled concerning the changes in jboss-app.xml preventing the
deployment to function properly is related to the chaotic management by JBoss Portal of
associations between portlet and portlet instances.
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| As far as I'm concerned, I won't ever go live with something like that.
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| Kind regards,
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| Nicolas
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