"kukeltje" wrote : Hee, as long as they follow JSR-299, I have no objections... Apache is a member of the expert group... so... Yes, Apache is part of the JSR-299. Inside of Apache there is more than *only* the MyFaces fusion proposal. There is Shale, there is Trinidad etc. Personally I think that an impl of that spec will be hosted at Apache Shale, when it really comes to an Apache impl. Stuff like Fusion's concepts (good or not) are valid for input as well. Also I don't think that Seam will a 1:1 mapping to the upcoming spec (like struts wasn't a 1:1 mapping for faces). Thanks! Matthias View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4025974#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...