I think you should study "seam_reference" and Michael Yuan's book about seam. I failed many times as you before i study those two books carefully. Once you mastere Seam, you will love it!!! Trust me. "djfjboss" wrote : One week on and some success but a lot of failure. | | Seam looks to me to badly frayed at the edges, it is far from robust or even consistent, giving bizarre errors for minor changes, and I have to say it seems more hype than reality at the moment. A nice idea, just a shame that it doesn't seem to work very reliably. There appear to be a million and one paths by which one could go about getting a simple HelloWorld up and running, only one of which works. The challenge apparently is to find that path. | | As an alternative to using Eclipse I tried to download RHDS from http://www.redhat.com/developers/rhds/ but get a server error just to rub salt into the wound. | | None of this is very helpful or reassuring. If the community are to use these technologies it should be straightforward to create a HelloWorld application out of the box. After that it's down to knowledge of the associated technologies (which admittedly I need to gain - but this is proving to be a catch-22) and development ability (which I have). View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4089538#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...