seamdiscs example application is a good example how to implement pagination with data lazy loading of readonly tables. I can see though that issued sqls are far far from optimal: seam-discs/discs.seam: 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select count(*) as col_0_0_ from Disc disc0_ 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select limit ? ? disc0_.id as id6_, disc0_.name as name6_, disc0_.release as release6_, disc0_.artist_id as artist5_6_, disc0_.description as descript4_6_ from Disc disc0_ order by disc0_.name ASC 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select artist0_.id as id4_0_, artist0_.name as name4_0_, artist0_.description as descript4_4_0_, artist0_.DTYPE as DTYPE4_0_ from Artist artist0_ where artist0_.id=? 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select artist0_.id as id4_0_, artist0_.name as name4_0_, artist0_.description as descript4_4_0_, artist0_.DTYPE as DTYPE4_0_ from Artist artist0_ where artist0_.id=? 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select artist0_.id as id4_0_, artist0_.name as name4_0_, artist0_.description as descript4_4_0_, artist0_.DTYPE as DTYPE4_0_ from Artist artist0_ where artist0_.id=? 11:05:22,512 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select artist0_.id as id4_0_, artist0_.name as name4_0_, artist0_.description as descript4_4_0_, artist0_.DTYPE as DTYPE4_0_ from Artist artist0_ where artist0_.id=? 11:05:22,527 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select count(*) as col_0_0_ from Disc disc0_ 11:05:22,746 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select artist0_.id as id4_, artist0_.name as name4_, artist0_.description as descript4_4_, artist0_.DTYPE as DTYPE4_ from Artist artist0_ order by artist0_.name11:05:22,934 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select limit ? ? disc0_.id as id6_, disc0_.name as name6_, disc0_.release as release6_, disc0_.artist_id as artist5_6_, disc0_.description as descript4_6_ from Disc disc0_ order by disc0_.name ASC 11:05:22,934 INFO [STDOUT] Hibernate: select count(*) as col_0_0_ from Disc disc0_ we have 3 count(*), and 2 select from Disc (first getting prev page results, not needed!) i think the problem is that trinidad (and richfaces) gets data on apply request values phase (not needed because readonly data) do you have a solution for this? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4111155#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...