I noticed today that hibernate.org is no more... it redirects to the jBoss site. After 15 minutes of searching I couldn't even find the download page. Does that mean that hibernate is now a component of jBoss and no longer an independent product? And that Hibernate would no longer support command-line or Swing applications? I hope this is not the case. It would be the kiss of death for Hibernate - and the (unfortunate) rise of other JPA products as a replacement to Hibernate. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4226270#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...