OK, thanks. I now understand the process up to that point. It looks like my actual problem is (not the same as the one I've shown) that I have a custom component that has a list of children in the decode() method that runs in RESTORE VIEW but that the children list is empty in the encodeBegin() method after APPLY_RQ_VALUES, PROCESS_VALIDS, in RENDER RESPONSE. I verified this with a debugger, let's see if I can find out who is clearing that collection. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4034925#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...