that's what I tried. Our posts probably got crossed. If I tried without being an evaluation it gave me an error. It has to be #{anotherEntityManager} But what I'm finding is the the EnvtityConverterStore is looking for a component called entityManager. I'm going to try removing the parameter from the JSF to see if that is still the case. This is getting weird. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4093811#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...