"dbatcn" wrote : As somebody who is also working with Seam without having previously used JSF/EJB3, I have another observation: I am only very slowly perceiving the boundaries of what's done by Seam vs. Facelets vs. JSF vs. Persistence API vs. EJB3, This just means we are succeeding in our goal to make this a single, seamless, user experience of a unified programming model. ;-) No more stovepipes. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3960852#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...