"Max's Fine Selection of JBoss Tools" ?

Op 25-okt-11, om 10:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as uber- > category on our update site when its not actually All. > > Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. Same > word as used for "An abridged dictionary". > > You can see details over at > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 > > This means instead of user seeing a category that is misleading them > to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at least if > they read ;) > should come aware that top category is just a pretty good selection. > > Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

"Awesome JBoss Tools stuff picked by none other than Max R. Andersen"?

Le 25/10/2011 15:13, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit : >> "Max's Fine Selection of JBoss Tools" ? > That fails the requirement of having to start with "A" to get on top of the list. > > /max > >> Op 25-okt-11, om 10:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >> geschreven: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as uber- >>> category on our update site when its not actually All. >>> >>> Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. Same >>> word as used for "An abridged dictionary". >>> >>> You can see details over at >>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 >>> >>> This means instead of user seeing a category that is misleading them >>> to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at least if >>> they read ;) >>> should come aware that top category is just a pretty good selection. >>> >>> Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? >>> >>> /max >>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosstools-dev mailing list >> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> >> > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

"Andersen's Cask Strength JBoss Tools" Op 25-okt-11, om 17:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende geschreven: > > On Oct 25, 2011, at 15:22, Fred Bricon wrote: > >> "Awesome JBoss Tools stuff picked by none other than Max R. >> Andersen"? > > That fails the requirement of having the second letter be a space or > be before "p" in the alphabet since the second category is > "Application Development". > > /max > >> >> Le 25/10/2011 15:13, Max Rydahl Andersen a �crit : >>>> "Max's Fine Selection of JBoss Tools" ? >>> That fails the requirement of having to start with "A" to get on >>> top of the list. >>> >>> /max >>> >>>> Op 25-okt-11, om 10:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >>>> geschreven: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as uber- >>>>> category on our update site when its not actually All. >>>>> >>>>> Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. Same >>>>> word as used for "An abridged dictionary". >>>>> >>>>> You can see details over at >>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 >>>>> >>>>> This means instead of user seeing a category that is misleading >>>>> them >>>>> to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at least if >>>>> they read ;) >>>>> should come aware that top category is just a pretty good >>>>> selection. >>>>> >>>>> Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? >>>>> >>>>> /max >>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>> >>>> >>> /max >>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

On Oct 25, 2011, at 20:57, Nick Boldt wrote: > "Ach Du Lieber! JBoss Tools" ? > > But seriously folks, for JBDS5, I don't think alphabetical order is > needed. Surely the new Central UI, using the Discovery thing, gets > around the need to list alphabetically? (Don't we control both the > horizontal and the vertical, as we reach past the outer limits and into > the night gallery?) This is jbosstools dev - not about JBDS5. You don't get the central UI before you actually installed from the update site. > Failing that, we could play with prefixing the smaller/subcatgs with "-" > or something so that they main two (Stable Tools, Incubating Tools) are > listed above the "- Web Tools" "- Cloud Tools", "- Foo Tools". > > Or hells bells, we could just go with: > > "1. Stable Tools" > "2. Incubating Tools" > "3. Cloud Tools" > "4. Web Tools" > "5. Foo Tools" > > to ensure the order we want based on the prefix numeral. Doesn't work when you aren't using a specific site in the P2 UI. This is why I just suggested "Abridged JBoss Tools". /max > > On 10/25/2011 02:32 PM, Koen Aers wrote: >> "Andersen's Cask Strength JBoss Tools" >> >> Op 25-okt-11, om 17:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >> geschreven: >> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 15:22, Fred Bricon wrote: >>> >>>> "Awesome JBoss Tools stuff picked by none other than Max R. >>>> Andersen"? >>> >>> That fails the requirement of having the second letter be a space or >>> be before "p" in the alphabet since the second category is >>> "Application Development". >>> >>> /max >>> >>>> >>>> Le 25/10/2011 15:13, Max Rydahl Andersen a �crit : >>>>>> "Max's Fine Selection of JBoss Tools" ? >>>>> That fails the requirement of having to start with "A" to get on >>>>> top of the list. >>>>> >>>>> /max >>>>> >>>>>> Op 25-okt-11, om 10:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >>>>>> geschreven: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as uber- >>>>>>> category on our update site when its not actually All. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. Same >>>>>>> word as used for "An abridged dictionary". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can see details over at >>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This means instead of user seeing a category that is misleading >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at least if >>>>>>> they read ;) >>>>>>> should come aware that top category is just a pretty good >>>>>>> selection. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /max >>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> /max >>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>> >>> >>> /max >>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosstools-dev mailing list >> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev > > -- > Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat > Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools& Dev Studio > http://nick.divbyzero.com > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev > > /max http://about.me/maxandersen

+1 ----- "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: "jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, "Koen Aers" <koen.aers(a)jboss.com&gt; > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:46:20 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Abridged JBoss Tools ? > > If you prefer Abridged to numerical sequencing, then I can make this > change for M4. So say we all? > > On 10/26/2011 03:16 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: >> >> On Oct 25, 2011, at 20:57, Nick Boldt wrote: >> >>> "Ach Du Lieber! JBoss Tools" ? >>> >>> But seriously folks, for JBDS5, I don't think alphabetical order > is >>> needed. Surely the new Central UI, using the Discovery thing, gets >>> around the need to list alphabetically? (Don't we control both the >>> horizontal and the vertical, as we reach past the outer limits and > into >>> the night gallery?) >> >> This is jbosstools dev - not about JBDS5. >> >> You don't get the central UI before you actually installed from the > update site. >> >>> Failing that, we could play with prefixing the smaller/subcatgs > with "-" >>> or something so that they main two (Stable Tools, Incubating Tools) > are >>> listed above the "- Web Tools" "- Cloud Tools", "- Foo Tools". >>> >>> Or hells bells, we could just go with: >>> >>> "1. Stable Tools" >>> "2. Incubating Tools" >>> "3. Cloud Tools" >>> "4. Web Tools" >>> "5. Foo Tools" >>> >>> to ensure the order we want based on the prefix numeral. >> >> Doesn't work when you aren't using a specific site in the P2 UI. >> >> This is why I just suggested "Abridged JBoss Tools". >> >> /max >> >>> >>> On 10/25/2011 02:32 PM, Koen Aers wrote: >>>> "Andersen's Cask Strength JBoss Tools" >>>> >>>> Op 25-okt-11, om 17:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >>>> geschreven: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 15:22, Fred Bricon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Awesome JBoss Tools stuff picked by none other than Max R. >>>>>> Andersen"? >>>>> >>>>> That fails the requirement of having the second letter be a space > or >>>>> be before "p" in the alphabet since the second category is >>>>> "Application Development". >>>>> >>>>> /max >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Le 25/10/2011 15:13, Max Rydahl Andersen a �crit : >>>>>>>> "Max's Fine Selection of JBoss Tools" ? >>>>>>> That fails the requirement of having to start with "A" to get > on >>>>>>> top of the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /max >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Op 25-okt-11, om 10:30 heeft Max Rydahl Andersen het volgende >>>>>>>> geschreven: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as > uber- >>>>>>>>> category on our update site when its not actually All. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. > Same >>>>>>>>> word as used for "An abridged dictionary". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You can see details over at >>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This means instead of user seeing a category that is > misleading >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at > least if >>>>>>>>> they read ;) >>>>>>>>> should come aware that top category is just a pretty good >>>>>>>>> selection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> /max >>>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> /max >>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /max >>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>> >>> -- >>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat >>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools& Dev Studio >>> http://nick.divbyzero.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>> >>> >> >> /max >> http://about.me/maxandersen >> >> >> > > -- > Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat > Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio > http://nick.divbyzero.com > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

How about: "Assorted JBoss Tools" It's appropriately vague and begins with an 'A'. ----- Original Message ----- > Hi, > > I keep getting annoyed by us having "All JBoss Tools" as > uber-category on our update site when its not actually All. > > Rob suggested Abridged instead and I actually kinda like it. Same > word as used for "An abridged dictionary". > > You can see details over at > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-10029 > > This means instead of user seeing a category that is misleading them > to think they are install "All JBoss Tools" they now (at least if > they read ;) > should come aware that top category is just a pretty good selection. > > Any thoughts on that ? Better or Worse ? > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >

Why not just be really sneaky and use " JBoss Tools" (note the leading space)? ----- Original Message ----- > but comes after Application ;) > > /max >

> …because it still make people think if they choose that they > everything. > Why not just make sure everything is included?

> …because it still make people think if they choose that they > everything. > Why not just make sure everything is included?