I'm very eager to take advantage of the configuration document ordering in JSF 2 because it will bring decidedly deterministic behavior when mixing JSF frameworks and libraries. However, I noticed something that compromises the usefulness of this feature when mixing with older JSF add-ons. I expected the value of the id attribute on the <faces-config> element to be used as the name of the docuent. However, I was suprised to learn that there is a special <name> child element reserved for this purpose. While I don't oppose the <name> element, since it is more semantic, it requires for me to wait (hope and wish) for the add-ons to hurry up and upgrade to JSF 2 so that I can order my document around them. I would expect that if the <name> element is absent (either because it is a pre-JSF 2 descriptor or it just isn't specified) the name is taken from the id attribute on <faces-config>, if present. Is this reasonable? This is *very* important to address now as it won't even be an issue once the projects upgrade. This feature is needed now. -Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week, it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if you feel that it did not reach my attention.

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Kito Mann <kito.mann(a)virtua.com&gt; wrote: > Dan, > > How many frameworks actually use the id attribute in their > faces-config.xml file? I don't remember seeing any. It's not so much that they use it today, but they could simply add it and do a new release. The alternative is to upgrade to JSF 2, which is a much bigger step. The library may not even want to support JSF 2 (solely).

-Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week, it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if you feel that it did not reach my attention.