6:17 a.m.
Hello everyone,
as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even JDK 7.
We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to JDK 8 as minimal
version.
From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require Java
8 to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a problem for you or if
you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7 compatible.
Regards
Matej
6:26 a.m.
+1 to drop JDK 7 support
On Feb 26, 2018 09:20, "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even JDK
7.
We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to JDK 8
as minimal version.
>From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require Java 8
to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a problem
for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
compatible.
Regards
Matej
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6:38 a.m.
Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on 2.4.x.
Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever create
it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even JDK
7.
We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to JDK 8
as minimal version.
>From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require Java 8
to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a problem
for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
compatible.
Regards
Matej
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6:59 a.m.
Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in this case.
We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this point any request for
backport
or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a considerable pain because of
JDK 7 support.
Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok to eventually
remove the support.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld 2.4?
Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on 2.4.x.
Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever create
it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even JDK
> 7.
> We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to JDK 8
> as minimal version.
> >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require Java 8
> to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
>
> Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a problem
> for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> compatible.
>
>
> Regards
> Matej
> _______________________________________________
> weld-dev mailing list
> weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev
>
9:45 a.m.
Hi Matej,
My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as Java EE7 requires the minimum
Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will have big
impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
Cc: J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 26/02/2018 13:05
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
Sent by: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in this
case.
We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this point
any request for backport
or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a considerable
pain because of JDK 7 support.
Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok to
eventually remove the support.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on
2.4.x.
Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever
create
it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even
JDK
> 7.
> We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to
JDK 8
> as minimal version.
> >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
Java 8
> to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless
there.
>
> Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
problem
> for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK
7
> compatible.
>
>
> Regards
> Matej
> _______________________________________________
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> weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>
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as Java EE7 requires the minimum Java version being 7.
I was actually trying to find this somewhere.
Can you point to *exactly* where this is stated?
I was unable to find such statement.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, "Weld"
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:45:33 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld 2.4?
Hi Matej,
My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as Java EE7 requires the minimum
Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will have big
impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
Cc: J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 26/02/2018 13:05
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
Sent by: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in this
case.
We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this point
any request for backport
or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a considerable
pain because of JDK 7 support.
Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok to
eventually remove the support.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
> From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
>
> Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on
2.4.x.
> Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever create
> it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports even
JDK
> > 7.
> > We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to
JDK 8
> > as minimal version.
> > >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
Java 8
> > to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
> >
> > Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
problem
> > for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> > compatible.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Matej
> > _______________________________________________
> > weld-dev mailing list
> > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.jboss.org_mail...
> >
>
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https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/java-se-8-and-java-ee-7
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From a Java EE point of view, the Java EE 7 specification requires at
least Java SE 7.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/javaee7sdk-in...
Installing the Software
Requirements
Java EE 7 SDK distributions require JDK 7 Update 65 and above or JDK 8
Update 20 and above.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
Cc: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org, J J SNYDER
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 26/02/2018 16:00
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
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as Java EE7 requires the minimum Java version being 7.
I was actually trying to find this somewhere.
Can you point to *exactly* where this is stated?
I was unable to find such statement.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, "Weld"
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:45:33 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
Hi Matej,
My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as Java EE7 requires the minimum
Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will have big
impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
Cc: J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 26/02/2018 13:05
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
Sent by: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in
this
case.
We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this
point
any request for backport
or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a
considerable
pain because of JDK 7 support.
Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok
to
eventually remove the support.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
> From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
> Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a
patch fix on
2.4.x.
> Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever
create
> it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny
<manovotn(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports
even
JDK
> > 7.
> > We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to
JDK 8
> > as minimal version.
> > >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
Java 8
> > to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
> >
> > Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
problem
> > for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> > compatible.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Matej
> > _______________________________________________
> > weld-dev mailing list
> > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.jboss.org_mail...
> >
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3:09 a.m.
Comments inline
Matej
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From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "J J SNYDER" <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, "Weld"
<weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 8:55:34 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld 2.4?
https://blogs.oracle.com/theaquarium/java-se-8-and-java-ee-7
From a Java EE point of view, the Java EE 7 specification requires at
least Java SE 7.
I wouldn't put much trust into a blogpost.
Anyhow the article basically encourages you to use JDK 8 features with EE7.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/javaee7sdk-in...
Installing the Software
Requirements
Java EE 7 SDK distributions require JDK 7 Update 65 and above or JDK 8
Update 20 and above.
Java EE 7 SDK != Java EE impl. Besides it says you can use 7 or 8 and recommends latest
JDK release anyway.
I was expecting these limitations to be present in EE umbrella spec or something like that
(imposing minimal version on implementations) but found none so far.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
Cc: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org, J J SNYDER
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 26/02/2018 16:00
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
Sent by: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
> as Java EE7 requires the minimum Java version being 7.
I was actually trying to find this somewhere.
Can you point to *exactly* where this is stated?
I was unable to find such statement.
Matej
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
> To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>, "J J
SNYDER"
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, "Weld"
> <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:45:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
>
> Hi Matej,
>
> My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as Java EE7 requires the minimum
> Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will have big
> impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
>
> Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
>
> Many thanks,
> Emily
> ===========================
> Emily Jiang
> WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
>
> MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
> Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
>
> Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
> Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
>
>
>
>
> From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld
> <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Date: 26/02/2018 13:05
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
> Weld 2.4?
> Sent by: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org
>
>
>
> Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in
this
> case.
>
> We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport, but at this
point
> any request for backport
> or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a
considerable
> pain because of JDK 7 support.
> Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be ok
to
> eventually remove the support.
>
> Matej
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> > To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
> <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
> 2.4?
> >
> > Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support in a patch fix on
> 2.4.x.
> > Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever
create
> > it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports
even
> JDK
> > > 7.
> > > We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving to
> JDK 8
> > > as minimal version.
> > > >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
> Java 8
> > > to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
> > >
> > > Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
> problem
> > > for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> > > compatible.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Matej
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > weld-dev mailing list
> > > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >
>
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>
> > >
> >
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>
>
>
>
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5:46 p.m.
I have not found anywhere to suggest JDK 7 should not work with Java EE7.
If you feel the links cannot be trusted, please reach out to the spec lead
of Java EE7 for confirmation.
Many thanks,
Emily
===========================
Emily Jiang
WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN
Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
To: Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
Cc: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org, J J SNYDER
<j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: 27/02/2018 09:10
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld 2.4?
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Comments inline
Matej
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> Many thanks,
> Emily
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> Emily Jiang
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> From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> To: Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
> Cc: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org, J J SNYDER
> <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Date: 26/02/2018 16:00
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
> Weld 2.4?
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> > as Java EE7 requires the
minimum Java version being 7.
> I was actually trying to find this somewhere.
> Can you point to *exactly* where this is stated?
> I was unable to find such statement.
> Matej
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> > From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
> > To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>, "J J
SNYDER"
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> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 4:45:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
> 2.4?
> > > Hi Matej,
> > > My vote is "not to drop JDK 7 support", as
Java EE7 requires the
minimum
>
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From: "Emily Jiang" <EMIJIANG(a)uk.ibm.com>
To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "J J SNYDER" <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, "Weld"
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 8:55:34 PM
Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for Weld
2.4?
From a Java EE point of view, the Java EE 7 specification requires
at
least Java SE 7.
I wouldn't put much trust into a blogpost.
Anyhow the article basically encourages you to use JDK 8 features with
EE7.
Installing the Software
Requirements
Java EE 7 SDK distributions require JDK 7 Update 65 and above or JDK 8
Update 20 and above.
Java EE 7 SDK != Java EE impl. Besides it says you can use 7 or 8 and
recommends latest JDK release anyway.
I was expecting these limitations to be present in EE umbrella spec or
something like that (imposing minimal version on implementations) but
found none so far.
> Java version being 7. If you remove the JDK7 support, this will
have
big
> impact to the customer who are currently use JDK7.
> Weld 3.x requires JDK 8, which is understandable.
> Many thanks,
> Emily
> ===========================
> Emily Jiang
> WebSphere Application Server, CDI & MicroProfile Development Lead
> MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21
2JN
> Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278
> Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com
> Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB
> From: Matej Novotny <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: J J SNYDER <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>, Weld
> <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Date: 26/02/2018 13:05
> Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support
for
> Weld 2.4?
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>
Valid point, it would definitely make sense to raise minor version in
this
> case.
> We are unsure if we will actually remove jdk 7 sipport,
but at this
point
> any request for backport
> or any attempt at support for newer java versions presents a
considerable
> pain because of JDK 7 support.
> Therefore I concluded I will ask on this mail and see if it would be
ok
to
> eventually remove the support.
> Matej
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> > From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> > To: "Matej Novotny" <manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Weld" <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>, "J J SNYDER"
> <j.j.snyder(a)oracle.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:38:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] To drop or not to drop JDK 7 support for
Weld
> 2.4?
> > > Seems weird to me that you would drop JDK support
in a patch fix on
> 2.4.x.
> > Seems more appropriate to keep 2.4.x on JDK 7, 2.5.x (if you ever
create
> > it) on JDK 8. 3.0.x already requires JDK 8.
> > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:18 AM Matej Novotny
<manovotn(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > as you probably know, Weld 2.4 (CDI 1.2 impl) currently supports
even
> JDK
> > > 7.
> > > We are currently considering dropping this limitation and moving
to
> > JDK 8
> > > > as minimal version.
> > > > >From what we know, some servers (such as WildFly) already require
> > Java 8
> > > > to even boot up so this limitation is pretty much pointless there.
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, please let us know if dropping JDK 7 support presents a
> > problem
> > > > for you or if you see any other reason for Weld 2.4 to stay JDK 7
> > > > compatible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Matej
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