Re: [aerogear-dev] aerogear site restyle

Hello Guys With Hylke we've been discussing footer recently. I\d like to know your view on our site footer. Do you prefer the one complete with all news details (knowing we already have a news entry in the menu) ? like below https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3bDL8OwQQUdNVYwTlFIajZ4c2M/edit?usp=sharing or a lean one just with links (no contents of news) like: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3bDL8OwQQUdWjBFU3k5WWEtUk0/edit?usp=sharing Feedback welcome ++ Corinne On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: > Thanks again! > I've pushed the fix to my branch now. > > Hylke > > On 06/08/2013 16:53, Corinne Krych wrote: >> Hi Hylke >> >> Regarding the issue you had on you fork branch, on iPhone/Android >> browsers of the paragraph being shifted to the right. This issue is >> caused by this line: >> https://github.com/hbons/aerogear.org/blob/AEROGEAR-1285/css/main.css#L389 >> >> Replace >> .feature { >> margin: 0 auto; >> padding: 1em 3em; >> max-width: 50em; >> } >> by >> >> .feature { >> margin: 0 auto; >> padding: 1em 1em; >> max-width: 50em; >> } >> and remove margin in: >> .features { >> /*margin: 3em auto;*/ >> } >> and you should get the spec you wanted. >> Because you're working border-box, padding is taking extra space out >> out the box and if there is not enough space in the parent container >> it expands. One thing I would advise is: when designing your site, >> test it on real devices on iterative steps as often as possible. >> >> ++ >> Corinne >> >> >> On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Kris Borchers <kborcher(a)redhat.com >> <mailto:kborcher@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >>> +0.5 >>> >>> I agree the footer was too big but I want to do a full review of >>> all navigation when i get back before saying +1 >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 7:34, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> #agreed on icons not being meaningful, we could do hyperlinks with >>>> text. >>>> But to keep footer small, let's not put to much information in the >>>> footer. Id you recall we had a huge footer. >>>> I'd go for a footer that looks like this one: >>>> http://wildfly.org/ >>>> >>>> wdyt? >>>> >>>> Corinne >>>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com >>>> <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Great! >>>>> >>>>> We're nearly there now, I'll fix the remaining issues today. >>>>> >>>>> I the use of icons in the footer is problematic. Visitors don't >>>>> necessarily know what these mean. >>>>> >>>>> For example, where would you go if you want to report an issue? >>>>> Not everyone is familiar with Jira and its logo. (You could hover >>>>> and get some kind of clue, but you can't do this on touch >>>>> devices, and it would be annoying) >>>>> >>>>> So I think we should revert back to just using text links... The >>>>> social networks can remain as icons. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Hylke >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 05/08/2013 10:14, Corinne Krych wrote: >>>>>> Hello All >>>>>> >>>>>> @Hylke, I've integrated your comments: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. logo is on left on desktop, centred on phone. I think this >>>>>> was a good comprise to make it look good on desktop and phone. >>>>>> 2. menu icon is fixed >>>>>> 3. page padding for paragraph added >>>>>> 4. I've downloaded the fonts locally and honestly it improved >>>>>> performance when browsing on devices >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like you to revisit the footer icons I've added >>>>>> (doc/jira/email/github/irc). It would be nice if they can look >>>>>> like the twitter/facebook/google+ ones you initially created. wdyt? >>>>>> >>>>>> @all, ready for your review guys, PR sent. >>>>>> >>>>>> ++ >>>>>> Corinne >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Corinne Krych >>>>>> <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com <mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Hylke! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've answered your comets below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Taking the latest code in my branch: >>>>>>> https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've also proposed a solution to make the footer much smaller. >>>>>>> I used images. But, I like to have your designer view on that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By tonight i hope to have a general feeling for the all site. >>>>>>> Stay tune. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> ++ >>>>>>> Corinne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com >>>>>>> <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks so much for looking into this Corrine! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just had a look at the OpenShift instance. It looks good to >>>>>>>> me responsiveness-wise. I like the menu behaviour. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are still some minor style issues. If you still have >>>>>>>> time to look into this that would be great, >>>>>>>> otherwise I can take a look at these be fore we launch the new >>>>>>>> style: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Logo is centred on the page, it looks more balanced having >>>>>>>> it stick to the left. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Funny, personally and specially on phone I found centred logo >>>>>>> looks more balance. i remember seeing Passos's comments on >>>>>>> this. He actually wanted it centred too. But I guess it's a >>>>>>> mater of taste. I can change. let's see others comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - The menu icon is a bit hard to see (I've attached a quick >>>>>>>> svg with a colour change, would be nice if we could use that >>>>>>>> and have it not change shape) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I changed the icon with a unicode (triple bar) much easier to >>>>>>> see. Pushed all that to my branch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - The news headline ("AG 1.0 is out!") is sticking to the >>>>>>>> right of the page, it would be better if it kept to the right, >>>>>>>> but still in the middle of the page for large screen setups >>>>>>>> - The platform icons seem to shift a pixel when you hover them >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nice catch will fix that. it gives a bad flickering effect indeed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - There's no page padding when scaling down, this makes the >>>>>>>> text paragraphs harder to read, because they touch the screen edge >>>>>>>> - Some padding/spacing issue all-round. This is probably >>>>>>>> because everything was rebased on Boilerplate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am actually working on all the other pages. my initial focus >>>>>>> was home page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll try to get a local instance running again and help out >>>>>>>> with these things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> + 10001 >>>>>>> Together we'll have much power, thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hylke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/08/2013 06:40, Daniel Bevenius wrote: >>>>>>>>> Looks nice! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 31 July 2013 18:57, Bruno Oliveira <bruno(a)abstractj.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:bruno@abstractj.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Corinne. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just tried and deployed on OpenShift >>>>>>>>> http://site-abstractj.rhcloud.com/. Looks really good, I >>>>>>>>> also tested it with http://mattkersley.com/responsive/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll try later on Android, IPhone and IPad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for looking at this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>>>>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> pretty cool! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just tried your branch and it looks good on my iPhone >>>>>>>>> 4s and on my Galaxy S II. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Matthias >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Corinne Krych >>>>>>>>> <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We've been talking about redesigning our >>>>>>>>> aerogear.org <http://aerogear.org/> web site. >>>>>>>>> Hylke has done a great design job. Now, we >>>>>>>>> 'just' want to make it responsive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Out of several proposals: >>>>>>>>> 1. use bootstrap (current version of our site) >>>>>>>>> and apply our custom design >>>>>>>>> 2. use topcoat css and apply our custom design >>>>>>>>> 3. use HTML5 boilerplate and apply our custom >>>>>>>>> design and make it responsive >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I initially started with option 1, which might be >>>>>>>>> overkill for a static site. >>>>>>>>> Tried option 2, but here too, it seems overkill >>>>>>>>> so ended with option 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using a blank page, I worked on Home page >>>>>>>>> reapplying Hylke css but: >>>>>>>>> - removing maximun-scale=1.0 because we want to >>>>>>>>> let people zoom if they wish, >>>>>>>>> - replacing 'px' unit to use 'em', >>>>>>>>> - centred logo images, >>>>>>>>> - making sure width is right otherwise you get >>>>>>>>> screw up with iPhone rotate >>>>>>>>> - adding media queries (only 2 breakpoints for >>>>>>>>> now, but need to be adjusted with devices tests >>>>>>>>> and your feedbacks) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The main points to sort out for UX design is the >>>>>>>>> menu bar and the footer. >>>>>>>>> To me, footer is too huge, even on desktop, could >>>>>>>>> we remove news? >>>>>>>>> For the menu, it looks fine on tablets format but >>>>>>>>> on phone, it's not really accessible. So I >>>>>>>>> implemented topcoat swipe menu using CSS3 >>>>>>>>> transform. Is it UX friendly? wdyt? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feedback welcome, >>>>>>>>> Work in progress in >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ++ >>>>>>>>> Corinne >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> "The measure of a man is what he does with power" - Plato >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> @abstractj >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> Volenti Nihil Difficile >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <menu-icon.svg>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev