API differences in Hibernate ORM 5.1 vs 5.3
by Gail Badner
Hi,
There were lots of differences in the compatibility report, so as a first
step, I've excluded packages/classes that I considered SPI, internal, or
"grey area". This reduced the the differences to a more manageable amount.
You can see a summary of the incompatibilities along with suggested
mitigation at [1].
The report is attached to [1], along with a zip with instructions for
running the report.
I believe there are some "false positives" in the report, and I have
documented them in the section, "False Positives?".
Feel free to comment on the article.
Thanks,
Gail
[1]
https://developer.jboss.org/wiki/HibernateORMBinaryCompatibilityBetween51...
9 months, 2 weeks
IP banned from forum
by Gunnar Morling
Hi,
Is anyone banning users from the forum? I am getting "A ban has been
issued on your IP address."
I don't think banning by IP is a good strategy as many users will have
dynamic IPs from their hoster's shared pool, so it's a random game to
hit an IP previously banned due to some other user's spam.
Thanks,
--Gunnar
9 months, 2 weeks
New CI machine preview
by Sanne Grinovero
You're all welcome to play with http://54.225.162.168/
however please keep these in mind:
- it's not the final machine: don't put too much effort in creating
nice build scripts as we'll reset it to clean state soon. We *might*
be able to store jobs defined so far, but we might choose not to.
- domain name should be coming: ci.hibernate.org ..not sure when, got
no replies so far from.
- authentication: just click on login, it will use OAuth2 to request
your identity via your GitHub account. Permissions to create new jobs,
edit existing jobs, run a build manually depend on your github account
be part of the Hibernate organization (or not, in which case you have
read only status)
At this stage I'd like to get a feeling if the hardware is powerful
enough, and also we need to select which other plugins we want to use,
I'm looking especially to:
- static analysis reports
- pull requests integration
both are relatively undefined, we can of course start simple and
improve later.. just checking this fits basic needs now.
Sanne
12 months
regarding more human-friendly table alias
by Nathan Xu
My point might have been discussed previously. I beg your pardon if my message bothers you.
As everybody knows, Hibernate will create very terse and mystic table alias. I often feel frustrated by them when trying to read the SQL Hibernate has produced. There must be many thoughts behind its current design, I think. Could we achieve the goal to avoid sacrificing SQL readability while having our job done? Needless to say, experienced Hibernate user still needs to understand the auto-generated SQL for many reasons (troubleshooting, optimization), and a human-friendly SQL might make for a far better user experience.
In terms of implementation, we can simulate human's thinking process when designing a table alias (TBH, sometimes even human is frustrated to think of a most satisfying alias). Many heuristics could be applied (e.g., hufman encoding algorithm) and it would be a good selling point for v6.
Any thoughts? Again, pardon me if the point has been discussed previously.
6 years, 1 month
Regarding lazy initialization of ArrayList
by Nathan Xu
This is my first message posted here after I finally succeeded in
subscribing to Hibernate dev mail list.
As well known, we utilized the following 'lazy initialization' pattern
extensively in our codebase to save memory:
if ( activeFactoryNames == null ) {
activeFactoryNames = new ArrayList<>();
}
However, even since JDK7, ArrayList has gone through refactoring to
keep from allocating
memory for 10 elements in advance, if the instance was created by
default constructor and the allocation of memory
is only done when some element is really added in future. Namely,
ArrayList has the lazy initialization feature built-in.
E.g., see https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33688753/jdk-api-documentation-is-inc...
for details. You can also browse the source code of ArrayList to confirm.
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Needless to say, the lazy initialization pattern has serious NPE issue
if it is not coded carefully (which is tedious and error-prone per
se).
As an active Hibernate v6 contributor, I am troubled by such NPE issue
again and again.
Is it a good timing to get rid of the above lazy initialization pattern for now?
Hopefully my message is good food for thought. No finger pointing. Just curious.
6 years, 2 months
Dropping support for Java 8 in Hibernate ORM (Search) v6 ?
by Sanne Grinovero
Hi all,
[meta: I had this email as a draft on hold since a year; very glad to
finally be able to send it.]
We're usually quite conservative in dropping support for older JDKs
within the Hibernate team, but there's an increasing maintenance (and
development) cost when keeping older JDK compatibility for too long.
In particular, Java 8 compatibility was so far still a requirement for
various strategic integrations; first, we had runtimes targeting
GraalVM still needing it, but they support Java 11 now as well; after
that, Azure Functions were also still requiring Java 8, but this
limitation was resolved now.
We're aware that Java 8 is still widely used; still I think we need to
look forward - for various reasons, including maintenance burden, and
to deliver a better experience on the later versions of the JDK. Also,
looking at the existing usage statistics implies a fallacy: that's
current production usage, while the code we normally work is
(typically) not going to see production usage for quite some time.
While we'll want to keep Java 8 compatibility for existing
[maintained] releases, there is no compelling reason anymore to keep
doing this for the upcoming major releases.
So I'd propose we require Java 11 the minimum compatible runtime for
ORM v6 onward, and I'd suggest we do the same with all our actively
developed projects.
Initially, I don't really expect this to significantly increase the
efforts from our already packed roadmaps: in the first stage this
proposal is literally only about making minimal changes to our build
scripts to change the compatibility versions, and for CI to stop
testing the JDK/branches combinations which are no longer supported.
In a second step, as convenient, we'll be able to:
- do some code cleanup / refactorings to benefit from the minor API
improvements of the JDK
- some APIs had more substantial improvements, such as java.sql now
features native support for multi-tenancy, literals and identifiers
enquoting [among others] .. might be interesting.
- finally benefit from Jigsaw?
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Sanne
6 years, 2 months
