I finished going through this second iteration. I started color each
finding to better indicate its "status":
- Blue = converted to a Jira
- Red = things I do not think we want to change (migration guide)
- Green = things that I considered "open items" - we should discuss
further
All have comments to a Jira, etc
Let me know if anyone has further comments.
P.S. Rather than keep an ever-expanding list of changes in the description
of HHH-12424 I started making sub-tasks to track each piece.
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:45 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
On 6 April 2018 at 14:56, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> That's called a migration guide :)
Good point :)
>
> And I agree, we should capture behavioral differences there too.
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:51 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>>
>> On 5 April 2018 at 22:03, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
>> > I am assuming that mean you behavioral compatibility (they act the
>> > same)...
>> >
>> > Well that's the point of tests. The real problem is that often there
>> > are
>> > not tests for a specific thing or someone changed the test
expectations
>> > during development
>>
>> Agreed on the point of tests. But I'm wondering if we want to track
>> existing behavioural incompatibilities we know of in a similar
>> document / as an appendix of it / labels on JIRA.
>>
>> Granted the binary compatibility is the first and most important
>> milestone, but I'd hope we could work also on some of the other ones
>> such as HHH-12454.
>>
>> I'm not suggesting that we solve them all - but it would be good to
>> collect a list of known compatibility issues to review once more as
>> when we decided on breaking some thing we weren't evaluating problems
>> in the light of continuous delivery requirements.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sanne
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 3:56 PM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This report is focusing on binary compatibility. Which is great, but
>> >> we should also pay attention to some other significant
>> >> incompatibilities such as HHH-12454.
>> >>
>> >> How do you prefer to track those, if at all?
>> >>
>> >> David mentioned that we're only *required* to provide binary
>> >> compatibility, but we could of course be a bit better than the
minimum
>> >> required - when doable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5 April 2018 at 21:48, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>> >> > I basically re-ran the same report on the newer snapshots.
>> >> > Incompatibilities listed in the old report that were resolved do
not
>> >> > appear
>> >> > in the new report.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also categorized the incompatibilities as discussed in comments
in
>> >> > the
>> >> > second report (e.g., Failures Mitigated using Compatibility
>> >> > Transformer).
>> >> >
>> >> > I un-crossed-out the issues that were not resolved yet (e.g., by
>> >> > HHH-12424
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > <
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-1...
>
>> >> > ).
>> >> >
>> >> > I think the only unresolved comment was the one about
>> >> > JPA_METAMODEL_POPULATION, so I responded to it in the new report.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Steve Ebersole <
steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Are these in addition to the original documentation? How do
we
>> >> >> correlate
>> >> >> things from this new doc that have already been addressed via
the
>> >> >> previous?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:00 PM Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I've re-run the report to see what is still
outstanding.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Here's the link:
>> >> >>>
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZjdVuNzYPjjmvVd7mDLw9zwy9c0By
>> >> >>> _FP0oj8DkHgiBE/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'll share to the same people as the last report.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Regards,
>> >> >>> Gail
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