The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none of his messages appeared in the archive. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > Karel, a user was asking about problems using the hibernate-spatial mailing > list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want deal with > these things moving forward. For example, the > http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running and really > has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into Hibernate proper > was completed. What do you want to have happen with that website/URL? > > As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? It seems > like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as opposed to a > dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user mailing lists. > We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so there is not a > straight "migration". You can obviously keep the hibernate-spatial mailing > list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users who are > having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on what you > decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. > > Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? > > Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was complaining about > wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

HI all, First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial mailing list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me yesterday. I will investigate shortly. Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate 5. I will put up a message for this on the site. For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated into the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the hibernatespatial.org URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions (3.x and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older versions of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the spatial tutorial from the hibernate.org website. As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they will be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on the usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions about Spatial on the hibernate forums? Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the Hibernate Spatial chapter? Regards, Karel > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new User Guide so > we can complete the migration. > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the current User > Guide. > > Vlad > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto <daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none of his >> messages >> appeared in the archive. >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the hibernate-spatial >> mailing >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want deal with >>> these things moving forward. For example, the >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running and really >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into Hibernate >> proper >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that website/URL? >>> >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? It >> seems >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as opposed >> to a >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user mailing >> lists. >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so there is >> not a >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the hibernate-spatial >> mailing >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users who are >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on what you >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. >>> >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? >>> >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was complaining about >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

Hi Vlad, I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week of March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up. Regards, Karel > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi Karel, > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I have just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review. > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's good to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL native one. > > What do you think of this? > > Vlad > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: > HI all, > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial mailing list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me yesterday. I will investigate shortly. > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate 5. I will put up a message for this on the site. > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated into the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the hibernatespatial.org URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions (3.x and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older versions of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the spatial tutorial from the hibernate.org website. > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they will be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on the usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions about Spatial on the hibernate forums? > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the Hibernate Spatial chapter? > > Regards, > > Karel > > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new User Guide so > > we can complete the migration. > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the current User > > Guide. > > > > Vlad > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto <daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; > > wrote: > > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none of his > >> messages > >> appeared in the archive. > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the hibernate-spatial > >> mailing > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want deal with > >>> these things moving forward. For example, the > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running and really > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into Hibernate > >> proper > >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that website/URL? > >>> > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? It > >> seems > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as opposed > >> to a > >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user mailing > >> lists. > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so there is > >> not a > >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the hibernate-spatial > >> mailing > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users who are > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on what you > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. > >>> > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? > >>> > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was complaining about > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> hibernate-dev mailing list > >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hibernate-dev mailing list > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >

On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hi Karel, I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User Guide. I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5. You can build the User Guide as follows: $ cd documentation $ gradle rUG $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should add. Thanks, Vlad On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hi, I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide. I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of that. All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things will change. I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some steps to build the User Guide. After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it further. Vlad On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: Hi Vlad, I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week of March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up. Regards, Karel > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi Karel, > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I have just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review. > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's good to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL native one. > > What do you think of this? > > Vlad > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: > HI all, > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial mailing list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me yesterday. I will investigate shortly. > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate 5. I will put up a message for this on the site. > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated into the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the hibernatespatial.org URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions (3.x and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older versions of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the spatial tutorial from the hibernate.org website. > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they will be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on the usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions about Spatial on the hibernate forums? > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the Hibernate Spatial chapter? > > Regards, > > Karel > > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new User Guide so > > we can complete the migration. > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the current User > > Guide. > > > > Vlad > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto <daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; > > wrote: > > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none of his > >> messages > >> appeared in the archive. > >> > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the hibernate-spatial > >> mailing > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want deal with > >>> these things moving forward. For example, the > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running and really > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into Hibernate > >> proper > >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that website/URL? > >>> > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? It > >> seems > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as opposed > >> to a > >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user mailing > >> lists. > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so there is > >> not a > >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the hibernate-spatial > >> mailing > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users who are > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on what you > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. > >>> > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? > >>> > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was complaining about > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> hibernate-dev mailing list > >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hibernate-dev mailing list > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >

Hi Vlad, I've created a PR (#1334) that contains a number of corrections and additions for the User Guide. Regards, Karel On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: > Hi Vlad, > > Thanks for doing this already. It’s a good starting point. I’ll suggest a > number of changes using a PR on the asciidoc and unit test sources in the > coming weeks. > > Regards, > > Karel > > > > On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > > > Hi Karel, > > > > I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User > Guide. > > I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and > changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5. > > > > You can build the User Guide as follows: > > > > $ cd documentation > > $ gradle rUG > > $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html > > > > Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should add. > > > > Thanks, > > Vlad > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide. > > I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of > that. > > > > All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things > will change. > > I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some > steps to build the User Guide. > > After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it further. > > > > Vlad > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; > wrote: > > Hi Vlad, > > > > I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week of > March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up. > > > > Regards, > > > > Karel > > > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Karel, > > > > > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I have > just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review. > > > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's good > to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL native > one. > > > > > > What do you think of this? > > > > > > Vlad > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; > wrote: > > > HI all, > > > > > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial mailing > list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me > yesterday. I will investigate shortly. > > > > > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate 5. > I will put up a message for this on the site. > > > > > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have > the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated into > the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the hibernatespatial.org > URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions (3.x > and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older versions > of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the spatial > tutorial from the hibernate.org website. > > > > > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they will > be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on the > usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions about > Spatial on the hibernate forums? > > > > > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the > Hibernate Spatial chapter? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Karel > > > > > > > > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > > > > > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new User > Guide so > > > > we can complete the migration. > > > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the current > User > > > > Guide. > > > > > > > > Vlad > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto < > daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none > of his > > > >> messages > > > >> appeared in the archive. > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole < > steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the > hibernate-spatial > > > >> mailing > > > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want > deal with > > > >>> these things moving forward. For example, the > > > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running > and really > > > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into > Hibernate > > > >> proper > > > >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that > website/URL? > > > >>> > > > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? > It > > > >> seems > > > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as > opposed > > > >> to a > > > >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user > mailing > > > >> lists. > > > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so > there is > > > >> not a > > > >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the > hibernate-spatial > > > >> mailing > > > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users > who are > > > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on > what you > > > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. > > > >>> > > > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? > > > >>> > > > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was > complaining about > > > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> hibernate-dev mailing list > > > >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> hibernate-dev mailing list > > > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On 17 April 2016 at 19:43, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to integrate it next week after the > Session->EntityFactory merge. Best to double-check with Steve, but I believe updates to the user guide might not need to wait for his refactoring work to be completed? > > Vlad > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: > >> Hi Vlad, >> >> I've created a PR (#1334) that contains a number of corrections and >> additions for the User Guide. >> >> Regards, >> >> Karel >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Hi Vlad, >>> >>> Thanks for doing this already. It’s a good starting point. I’ll suggest a >>> number of changes using a PR on the asciidoc and unit test sources in the >>> coming weeks. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Karel >>> >>> >>> > On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Karel, >>> > >>> > I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User >>> Guide. >>> > I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and >>> changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5. >>> > >>> > You can build the User Guide as follows: >>> > >>> > $ cd documentation >>> > $ gradle rUG >>> > $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html >>> > >>> > Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should add. >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > Vlad >>> > >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea < mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide. >>> > I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of >>> that. >>> > >>> > All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things >>> will change. >>> > I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some >>> steps to build the User Guide. >>> > After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it further. >>> > >>> > Vlad >>> > >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > Hi Vlad, >>> > >>> > I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week of >>> March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Karel >>> > >>> > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Hi Karel, >>> > > >>> > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I have >>> just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review. >>> > > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's good >>> to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL native >>> one. >>> > > >>> > > What do you think of this? >>> > > >>> > > Vlad >>> > > >>> > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> > > HI all, >>> > > >>> > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial mailing >>> list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me >>> yesterday. I will investigate shortly. >>> > > >>> > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate 5. >>> I will put up a message for this on the site. >>> > > >>> > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have >>> the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated into >>> the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the hibernatespatial.org >>> URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older versions (3.x >>> and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older versions >>> of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the spatial >>> tutorial from the hibernate.org website. >>> > > >>> > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they will >>> be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on the >>> usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions about >>> Spatial on the hibernate forums? >>> > > >>> > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the >>> Hibernate Spatial chapter? >>> > > >>> > > Regards, >>> > > >>> > > Karel >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com > >>> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new User >>> Guide so >>> > > > we can complete the migration. >>> > > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the current >>> User >>> > > > Guide. >>> > > > >>> > > > Vlad >>> > > > >>> > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto < >>> daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but none >>> of his >>> > > >> messages >>> > > >> appeared in the archive. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole < >>> steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the >>> hibernate-spatial >>> > > >> mailing >>> > > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want >>> deal with >>> > > >>> these things moving forward. For example, the >>> > > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running >>> and really >>> > > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into >>> Hibernate >>> > > >> proper >>> > > >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that >>> website/URL? >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have happen? >>> It >>> > > >> seems >>> > > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as >>> opposed >>> > > >> to a >>> > > >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user >>> mailing >>> > > >> lists. >>> > > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so >>> there is >>> > > >> not a >>> > > >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the >>> hibernate-spatial >>> > > >> mailing >>> > > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help users >>> who are >>> > > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends on >>> what you >>> > > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was >>> complaining about >>> > > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > > >>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>> > > >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>> > > >>> >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > > >> hibernate-dev mailing list >>> > > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>> > > >> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > hibernate-dev mailing list >>> > > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

I'm going to integrate it in master, 5.1, and 5.0 since theHibernate Spatial module is the same for all three, right? Vlad On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > The User Guide will definitely need some updates for 5.2, but none of my > changed so far have touched User Guide sources. > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:25 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt; > wrote: > >> On 17 April 2016 at 19:43, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Thanks for the update. I'm going to integrate it next week after the >> > Session->EntityFactory merge. >> >> Best to double-check with Steve, but I believe updates to the user >> guide might not need to wait for his refactoring work to be completed? >> >> > >> > Vlad >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Vlad, >> >> >> >> I've created a PR (#1334) that contains a number of corrections and >> >> additions for the User Guide. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Karel >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Vlad, >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for doing this already. It’s a good starting point. I’ll >> suggest a >> >>> number of changes using a PR on the asciidoc and unit test sources in >> the >> >>> coming weeks. >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Karel >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > On 25 Feb 2016, at 10:52, Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi Karel, >> >>> > >> >>> > I pushed the first version of the Spatial chapter into the new User >> >>> Guide. >> >>> > I basically integrated the hibernatespatial.org documentation and >> >>> changed all examples to match the current API in Hibernate 5. >> >>> > >> >>> > You can build the User Guide as follows: >> >>> > >> >>> > $ cd documentation >> >>> > $ gradle rUG >> >>> > $ ls target/asciidoc/userguide/html_single/Hibernate_User_Guide.html >> >>> > >> >>> > Let me know what you think and what else do you suggest we should >> add. >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks, >> >>> > Vlad >> >>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Vlad Mihalcea < >> mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Hi, >> >>> > >> >>> > I already started the Spatial chapter in the new User Guide. >> >>> > I'm using your documentation as a starting point and build on top of >> >>> that. >> >>> > >> >>> > All examples are built as unit tests so we are notified when things >> >>> will change. >> >>> > I'll integrate it when I'm done and I'll send you an email with some >> >>> steps to build the User Guide. >> >>> > After you review it, I'll collect all your findings improve it >> further. >> >>> > >> >>> > Vlad >> >>> > >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Karel Maesen <karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Hi Vlad, >> >>> > >> >>> > I think this is a good idea. I’m away on conference the second week >> of >> >>> March, but afterwards I can make some time to help you write it up. >> >>> > >> >>> > Regards, >> >>> > >> >>> > Karel >> >>> > >> >>> > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 22:22, Vlad Mihalcea < mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Hi Karel, >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Next week, I'm going to finish the SQL native chapter and then I >> have >> >>> just the OSGI and Envers chapters to review. >> >>> > > But since Hibernate Spatial is not covered at all, I think it's >> good >> >>> to start with Hibernate Spatial right after I'm done with the SQL >> native >> >>> one. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > What do you think of this? >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Vlad >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Karel Maesen < karel(a)geovise.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > > HI all, >> >>> > > >> >>> > > First, there seems to be a problem with the hibernate-spatial >> mailing >> >>> list that I was unaware of. The user in question reached out to me >> >>> yesterday. I will investigate shortly. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Fair point about the website not mentioning the move to Hibernate >> 5. >> >>> I will put up a message for this on the site. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > For the near future what I’m hoping for is that first, we can have >> >>> the hibernate spatial tutorial updated to version 5, and integrated >> into >> >>> the Hibernate User Guide. After that I can have the >> hibernatespatial.org >> >>> URL’s redirect to that chapter. To support users of the older >> versions (3.x >> >>> and 4.x), we should also make sure that users can download older >> versions >> >>> of hibernate-spatial jars, and can consult older versions of the >> spatial >> >>> tutorial from the hibernate.org website. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > As for the mailing lists, I plan on announcing shortly that they >> will >> >>> be discontinued by end of year, and that questions should be asked on >> the >> >>> usual hibernate channels. Btw, how can I be notified about questions >> about >> >>> Spatial on the hibernate forums? >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Vlad, have you some idea about time frame for starting on the >> >>> Hibernate Spatial chapter? >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Regards, >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Karel >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > On 20 Feb 2016, at 09:18, Vlad Mihalcea < >> mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > I also plan on writing a Hibernate Spatial Chapter in the new >> User >> >>> Guide so >> >>> > > > we can complete the migration. >> >>> > > > But first, I need to finish the remaining chapters from the >> current >> >>> User >> >>> > > > Guide. >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > Vlad >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davide D'Alto < >> >>> daltodavide(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> > > > wrote: >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > >> The user registered to the hibernate-spatial mailing list but >> none >> >>> of his >> >>> > > >> messages >> >>> > > >> appeared in the archive. >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Steve Ebersole < >> >>> steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; >> >>> > > >> wrote: >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >>> Karel, a user was asking about problems using the >> >>> hibernate-spatial >> >>> > > >> mailing >> >>> > > >>> list on IRC which precipitated a discussion about how we want >> >>> deal with >> >>> > > >>> these things moving forward. For example, the >> >>> > > >>> http://www.hibernatespatial.org/ site is still up and running >> >>> and really >> >>> > > >>> has no indication that the move to integrate Spatial into >> >>> Hibernate >> >>> > > >> proper >> >>> > > >>> was completed. What do you want to have happen with that >> >>> website/URL? >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> As for other infrastructure, what would you like to have >> happen? >> >>> It >> >>> > > >> seems >> >>> > > >>> like hibernate-spatial is a more user-focused mailing list, as >> >>> opposed >> >>> > > >> to a >> >>> > > >>> dev mailing list? If so, Hibernate does not really do user >> >>> mailing >> >>> > > >> lists. >> >>> > > >>> We prefer the forums or StackOverflow for user questions, so >> >>> there is >> >>> > > >> not a >> >>> > > >>> straight "migration". You can obviously keep the >> >>> hibernate-spatial >> >>> > > >> mailing >> >>> > > >>> list running too, but we should have some idea how to help >> users >> >>> who are >> >>> > > >>> having trouble with it on the website (which website depends >> on >> >>> what you >> >>> > > >>> decide to do with http://www.hibernatespatial.org/. >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> Any other things we should discuss in terms of infrastructure? >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> Davide, what was the exact problem the user on IRC was >> >>> complaining about >> >>> > > >>> wrt the hibernate-spatial mailing list? >> >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> > > >>> hibernate-dev mailing list >> >>> > > >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> > > >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> >>> > > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > > > hibernate-dev mailing list >> >>> > > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hibernate-dev mailing list >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev