On 22 Jul 2009, at 10:42, Mircea Markus wrote:
Manik Surtani wrote:
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>>> So you do force a lot of deadlocks as a result. And the time
>>> taken with the non-DLD case would depend on the TM's transaction
>>> timeout configuration which again would vary.
>> The Dummy TM does not force rollback based on tx timeout, indeed.
>> Another important factor it depends on is the
>> lockAcquisitionTimeout. Still, it's up to the user to benchmark
>> against its very specific scenario.
>
> Sorry yes, I meant lockAcquisitionTimeout in my prev. comment.
In this case lowering lock acquisition timeout would result in
rollbacks of non-deadlocked txs as well, so not sure the overall
outcome is better.
My point is that any gain (measured as a percentage or a factor) is
directly related to the lock acquisition timeout. Which is, in turn,
hugely application-specific. :)
>
>>> So as a result I'd be careful about quoting performance increase
>>> factors in a public blog (although you should definitely blog
>>> about this as a feature and how it *could* speed up transactions
>>> that would otherwise timeout).
>> Point taken. Are you also thinking not to bring up the diagrams?
>> After all, they the numbers there are real: so by mentioning the
>> context (intended high collision) and no tx timeout, they are
>> relevant.
>
> Well, the numbers are only real given the rate of colliding
> transactions (versus non-colliding ones) and the lock acquisition
> timeout that you used. Which is artificial, or at best specific to
> a certain use case. But either way, not generic enough to publish
> since it would lead people to believe that they can expect a 500%
> performance boost when using deadlock detection, and get really
> pissed off when they *only* get a 25% performance boost since most
> of their transactions don't collide anyway. :-)
What about a pool of 50 objects? Or 100?
Again, this is entirely artificial. How many of these should
collide? Is it realistic? :-)
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