Hi, Re: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-841 The issue here is the fact that if you call a TreeCache operation passing flags, you want this flags to apply to all cache operations encompassing the tree cache op. Now, the thing to remember about flags is that they get cleared after each cache invocation, so we must somehow pass flags around to all methods that operate on the cache as a result of a treecache.put for example. A rudimentary way to do so would be to pass Flag... to all methods involved which is not pretty and hard to maintain. An alternative would be to have some flags thread local that gets populated on start of tree cache operation and gets cleared in the end of the operation. Although this might work, isn't this very similar to what CacheDelegate does to maintain flags except that instead of keeping them for a cache invocation, it would keep them hanging around until the end of the operation? TreeCache operations are bounded by start/stop atomic calls that are essentially calls to start/stop batches. So, it seems to me that what this is asking for is for a wider functionality to keep flags for the duration of a transaction/batch, which would most likely be solved better in core/

We had a similar issue in the past: Even when using Flag.SKIP_STORE consistently on a specific type of object, which I did want to absolutely prevent to be written to the store, this could end up in the store during rehash operations as the flag wouldn't be in the context at that moment, and for safety the new owner will write to the store. This forced me to change the Lucene Directory to use multiple caches, to be able to configure the specific one without any store. Maybe we could attach some flags to Entry, possibly of different type than current Flag. For example it would be nice to have a "NEEDS_STORE" which could be set to false as soon as it's written, and so also have rehashing perform better as there's no need to rewrite to the store for most of the data being received, as it's likely already stored.

(I understand this would be quite broken in a store-per-node configuration, but we can elaborate on it, or have it optional and enable only for shared stores) Sanne 2011/1/4 Manik Surtani <manik(a)jboss.org&gt;: > > On 23 Dec 2010, at 16:48, Galder Zamarreño wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Re: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-841 >> >> The issue here is the fact that if you call a TreeCache operation passing flags, you want this flags to apply to all cache operations encompassing the tree cache op. Now, the thing to remember about flags is that they get cleared after each cache invocation, so we must somehow pass flags around to all methods that operate on the cache as a result of a treecache.put for example. >> >> A rudimentary way to do so would be to pass Flag... to all methods involved which is not pretty and hard to maintain. An alternative would be to have some flags thread local that gets populated on start of tree cache operation and gets cleared in the end of the operation. Although this might work, isn't this very similar to what CacheDelegate does to maintain flags except that instead of keeping them for a cache invocation, it would keep them hanging around until the end of the operation? TreeCache operations are bounded by start/stop atomic calls that are essentially calls to start/stop batches. So, it seems to me that what this is asking for is for a wider functionality to keep flags for the duration of a transaction/batch, which would most likely be solved better in core/ > > Hmm; flags are explicitly designed for per-invocation application. If we change this to apply to an entire transaction in core (e.g., by storing the flags in a transaction context rather than an invocation context) it will break a lot of existing code. > > I think it cannot/should not be solved in core but rather in the TreeCache. A thread local makes sense. > > -- > Manik Surtani > manik(a)jboss.org > twitter.com/maniksurtani > > Lead, Infinispan > http://www.infinispan.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > infinispan-dev mailing list > infinispan-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev > _______________________________________________ infinispan-dev mailing list infinispan-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/infinispan-dev

On 23 Dec 2010, at 16:48, Galder Zamarreño wrote: > Hi, > > Re: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-841 > > The issue here is the fact that if you call a TreeCache operation passing flags, you want this flags to apply to all cache operations encompassing the tree cache op. Now, the thing to remember about flags is that they get cleared after each cache invocation, so we must somehow pass flags around to all methods that operate on the cache as a result of a treecache.put for example. > > A rudimentary way to do so would be to pass Flag... to all methods involved which is not pretty and hard to maintain. An alternative would be to have some flags thread local that gets populated on start of tree cache operation and gets cleared in the end of the operation. Although this might work, isn't this very similar to what CacheDelegate does to maintain flags except that instead of keeping them for a cache invocation, it would keep them hanging around until the end of the operation? TreeCache operations are bounded by start/stop atomic calls that are essentially calls to start/stop batches. So, it seems to me that what this is asking for is for a wider functionality to keep flags for the duration of a transaction/batch, which would most likely be solved better in core/ Hmm; flags are explicitly designed for per-invocation application. If we change this to apply to an entire transaction in core (e.g., by storing the flags in a transaction context rather than an invocation context) it will break a lot of existing code.

I think it cannot/should not be solved in core but rather in the TreeCache. A thread local makes sense.

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