I thought that if you had: @In(create=true) Foo createFoo that would look at the variable name, which is createFoo, and use that as the Seam variable name? Anyway, I tried: @In(create=true,value="createFoo") Foo createFoo and that still gave the same exception. The only time it doesn't give an exception is when I put in required=false, like: @In(create=true,required=false) Foo createFoo but then it looks like createFoo is never created. This makes no sense! Note that I don't have a "createFoo" role attached to the Foo class. Do I need that also? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3993329#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...