[jbpm-dev] What's going on exactly

Hi all! I am really confused by now what is going on in the jBPM project and JBoss BPM project. Could somebody please clarify: - Is JBoss BPM now a different project than jBPM? Or is it one? - Where is the exact goal of the BPM? - Where does this BPM-API should lead to? - The BPM documentation uses some XML notation. Which language is that? - How does PVM / jBPM 4 relate to the “JBoss BPM”? - What products will be available? PVM, jBPM jPDL 3, jBPM jPDL 4? What’s with BPEL? - What effort is going to on to integrate BPMN? - Who is project lead of what? And: - When is the mailinglist used, when the forum? Sorry, but I am really confused. I thought there was a clear vision in the jBPM project (PVM / jBPM jPDL 4 as “reference implementation”), but now there are a lot of other things, like this “BPM product”. What is exactly going on here? Sorry for asking that “silly” questions, I have some idea in my mind about how everything goes on, but am not sure if that picture reflects reality ;-) And as long I don’t have a clear picture is hard for me to contribute ideas or code and to continue giving presentations on jBPM on conferences (since normally I try to know what I am talking about). Also it will be an interesting information for delivering the RedHat jBPM trainings…. Thanks for your answers Bernd -- EJB-3-Buch: <http://www.ejbbuch.de/> http://www.ejbbuch.de/ SENS-Experte: <http://www.softwareexperts.de/> http://www.softwareexperts.de/ --------------------------------------------- camunda services GmbH - The Business Process Company Werastraße 18 - 70182 Stuttgart <http://www.camunda.com> www.camunda.com - <mailto:info@camunda.com> info(a)camunda.com --------------------------------------------- Bernd Rücker Geschäftsführer Telefon +49 711 3278645 Mobil +49 171 1473461 <mailto:bernd.ruecker@camunda.com> bernd.ruecker(a)camunda.com --------------------------------------------- Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 113230 B Geschäftsführer: Jakob Freund, Bernd Rücker ---------------------------------------------