Hi Radim,
I tried my performance test again with Infinispan - 5.3.0.
Now, "replication writes" are taking almost double the time as in 5.2.3.
Could you please clarify the issues with replication mode in 5.2.3?
I guess, to overcome those issues, some more messages were added to replication mode in
5.3.0, because of which writes are
taking more time in 5.3.0.
Please note that, with a 3 node cluster, now distribution and replication are taking
almost the same time for "writes".
Thanks,
Faseela
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Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] Recommended Cluster Size for Replication Mode
On 08/13/2013 11:58 AM, Faseela K wrote:
Hi Radim,
Thanks for the information.
A few more doubts :
- Is it possible to have different named caches with different clustering
configuration?
Eg : I need a cache's data to be replicated asynchronously, and one
other cache's data to be distributed synchronously.
Yes, this is expected
configuration.
- What will be the impact of putAsync() call on clustered performance?
The putAsync differs from regular put call just by executing the command in
different thread (from threadpool) and returning future instead of the previous value.
Besides this the processing of the command inside Infinispan is identical.
Btw., if you drive for highest performance, you could consider using the
IGNORE_RETURN_VALUE flag.
- Is there any performace numbers already avaialble for
various clustering modes?
Are there any benchmarks already documented?
Such results are not
disclosed. For benchmarking, you may consider using the RadarGun tool [1] (use snapshot
version, 1.0 is prehistorical release).
Radim
[1]
https://github.com/radargun/radargun
I will try my performance test once again with 5.3.0 version.
I will also analyse impacts of moving my clustering mode to asynchronous
replication/distribution.
Thanks,
Faseela
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Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] Recommended Cluster Size for Replication
Mode
Yes, with 5.2.3 it makes sense - in replication mode there were less messages used for
the write but key may have different value on different nodes after concurrent
modification. In order to evade this, you can setup 4-node distributed cluster with
numOwners=4.
All the performance optimizations depend on how consistent the storage has to be. Do you
write to the same keys in one moment from multiple locations? Would you be OK with a bit
out-of-date reads? Is it a problem if you read different values for the key on different
nodes? Is it a problem to a write getting lost once a while?
With strong consistency requirements, you can't get top performance, but maybe you
don't really need it - or you need it just for some data in your app which can be
positioned into cache with different configuration.
There is a nice table [1] for asynchronous options guarantees.
And by the way - "my application involves both reads and writes heavily"
does not say anything - the factor is the ratio (percentage) of reads to writes.
Radim
[1]
https://docs.jboss.org/author/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=63636092
On 08/13/2013 06:29 AM, Faseela K wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using infinispan 5.2.3.
> My configuration is non-transactional, synchronous.
> With this configuration, is my replication supposed to perform better than
distribution, for both reads and writes?
> My Cluster Size requirement is 4 nodes.
> And my application involves both reads and writes heavily.
> For better performance, are there any suggestions on the clustering
modes/configurations?
> All my tests show, replication having better performance than distribution for
reads as well as writes, with 4 nodes.
>
> Thanks,
> Faseela
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Vansa
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 6:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] Recommended Cluster Size for
> Replication Mode
>
> Hi,
>
> which version exactly do you use, 5.2.x, 5.3.x or 6.0.x? In 5.2 the replication mode
was implemented separately from distribution mode and depending on your configuration (is
it non-transactional synchronous?) the message control flow could differ. Since 5.3
replication mode is implemented in the same manner and the results should be more
comparable.
> I may be wrong here, but in 5.2.x concurrent writes to single key in
non-transactional mode could result in entries being out of sync on some nodes (the writes
could arrive at two nodes in different order). I think this cannot happen in >= 5.3
anymore.
>
> Radim
>
> On 08/12/2013 09:04 AM, Faseela K wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> With a 3 node cluster, even for "WRITES" my replication
performance is better than distribution.
>> That's why I came across this doubt.
>> Could some body please clarify, why the behaviour is like this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Faseela
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:infinispan-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mircea
>> Markus
>> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 7:14 PM
>> To: infinispan -Dev List
>> Subject: Re: [infinispan-dev] Recommended Cluster Size for
>> Replication Mode
>>
>> On 6 Aug 2013, at 15:19, Faseela K <faseela.k(a)ericsson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the recommended cluster size for Replication Mode?
>>> Given 3 nodes, My replication configuration performs better than my
distributed configuration.
>>> Just wanted to know, at what cluster size, distribution will perform
better than replication.
>> There's no straight answer, it depends on the read/write ratio and the amount
of data you store.
>> Replication will always perform better for reads as it won't involve a remote
call to get the data.
>> If you're mostly doing reads and your memory allows (replication is more
memory consuming) then you should use replication.
>> If the amount of data increases or you're doing more writes, distribution is
the way to go.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Mircea Markus
>> Infinispan lead (
www.infinispan.org)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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