Stateless vs Stateful
by Rob Fisher
We have a batch application that will have 50 - 60 rule sets, comprised of 5 - 75 rules each. We'll run a group of individuals through the rules and potentially qualify them for various awards. We'll insert 10 facts, each containing a unique set of attributes which will be used in the rule sets to determine potential qualification. The batch process will insert one individual's data (10 facts) at a time, fire the rules, and return the results. The data on the objects inserted will remain static.
Also, in the future, we'd like to integrate the rule sets with a 'what if' web application, wherein the individual can modify the input data, fire the rules, and see the results.
Given this, can you recommend whether a Stateful or Stateless knowledge session is more appropriate than the other? Is one more appropriate for a batch vs online application?
Thanks
Rob
13 years, 3 months
Options for rule versioning
by Rob Fisher
Looking for best practice recommendations around the versioning of a rule. Our application will have 50-60 rule sets comprised of up to 70 rules each. The activation of many of the rules will be based on a processing date (inserted fact attribute). The application processing date can be prior, equal, or after the system date.
For example, 2 rules, with slightly different logic
Eligibility rule version 1
//to be potentially activated for application processing time period prior to 2011
When
Car(color = "blue")
Then
Terms(eligible = "yes")
Eligibility rule version 2
//to be potentially activated for application processing time period 2011 and forward
When
Car(color = "blue", type="coupe")
Then
Terms(eligible = "yes")
We've come up with a couple of different ways to handle this:
1. Add Date logic to LHS of the rule . i.e add "Control(processingDate < '01/01/2011')" to 1st rule and "Control(processingDate >= '01/01/2011')" to 2nd rule. First rule would activate with processing date = 12/31/2010 and 2nd rule would activate with processing date = 07/31/2011. When originally authored, first rule would be written without date logic. When 2nd rule is authored, data logic will need to get added to both.
2. We explored a way of setting the session clock to the processing date and using the 'date-effective' and 'date-expires' attributes to do the filtering. i.e. 1st rule is effective until 12/31/2010 and 2nd rule is effective from 01/01/2011 to 12/31/9999. However, we could only figure out how to do this with a stateful knowledge session. Is it possible in a Stateless?
3. We added metadata to the rules (@EffectiveDate and @ExpirationDate), and using agendafilter, we compared processing date to the metadata and return true or false dependent on comparison.
What are your opinions on these three methods? What are other options?
Thanks
Rob
13 years, 3 months
Error in Guvnor with Enumerations (5.1.1)
by John Peterson
Reposting since I didn't get any takers. I'm hoping it might have been because I sent it to the list on a Friday afternoon (2 weeks ago).
Hey,
I'm trying to utilize a "load method" for Guvnor, but I can't seem to get it working. His is my DataHelper class (modeling it off the documentation):
package com.enumerations;
import java.util.ArrayList;
import java.util.Iterator;
import java.util.List;
public class DataHelper {
public List<String> getQuestionNumberList(){
ArrayList returnList = new ArrayList();
Iterator it = com.enumerations.DroolsTest.questionList.iterator();
while (it.hasNext()){
QuestionAndAnswer qAndA = (QuestionAndAnswer)it.next();
if (!returnList.contains(qAndA.getQuestionNumber())){
returnList.add((String)qAndA.getQuestionNumber());
}
}
return (List<String>)returnList;
}
}
I've placed this (both as a .jar and .class file) in my JBoss installation under \jboss-4.2.3.GA\server\default\deploy\drools-guvnor.war\WEB-INF\classes\com\enumerations.
Using this syntax as an enumeration in Guvnor:
'QuestionAndAnswer.questionNumber' : (new com.enumerations.DataHelper()).getQuestionNumberList()
I get the following errors:
[Enumerations] Unable to load enumeration data.
[Enumerations] [Error: failed to access property: getQuestionNumberList(): [Error: unable to invoke method: getQuestionNumberList] [Near : {... Unknown ....}] ^[Line: 1, Column: 0]][Near : {... r()).getQuestionNumberList() ....}] ^ [Line: 1, Column: 0] [Enumerations] Error type: org.mvel2.PropertyAccessException
I am using Drools 5.1.1. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to correct this error?
jp
13 years, 3 months
Inconsistent syntax behaviour
by Swindells, Thomas
Continuing trying to upgrade from drools 5.1 I've been finding some strange funnies in rules behavior. Currently I'm using <droolsVersion>5.3.0.Beta1</droolsVersion>
<jbpmVersion>5.1.0.Final</jbpmVersion>
<mvelVersion>2.1.Beta6</mvelVersion>
In our model we've got some lists (Yuck I know) and we want to test whether they are not empty, there are three variations of the rules that we could use
rule "TESTa"
when
t : Title(t.getMyList().isEmpty() == false)
then
logger.debug(drools.getRule().getName() + " " + drools.getTuple());
end
rule "TESTb"
when
t : Title(myList.isEmpty() == false)
then
logger.debug(drools.getRule().getName() + " " + drools.getTuple());
end
rule "TESTc"
when
t : Title(myList.empty == false)
then
logger.debug(drools.getRule().getName() + " " + drools.getTuple());
end
I'd expect all of these formats to work (particularly c) however only TESTa succeeds, the other two FAIL SILENTLY, failing to match anything but not generating any errors or warnings.
Thomas
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Insert a fact into drools server from a web application or java application
by kkelleyjr
Ok, I have read the documentation like a million times. I have looked at all
the examples. Yet I still can not figure out how to add a fact to the drools
server ksession1 from a web application or a java application. I have got
the server to work. I have even got the soapUI to work. now I want to add a
fact from my own client.
My issue is that I need to add a facts that has maps and list in the pojo.
how can I just add the pojo to the ksession1? Is there an example that is
out there that I have not found?
It seems simple, but I just do not understand... can someone provide some
additional help, please?
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