A fusion design question:
I have events that represent intervals. Initially the intervals are
open-ended (kind a like the current state of an entity). Other events are
matched "during" the interval and correlated. At some point the interval
will be closed (eg, a specific downtime interval is closed because the
device is no online again).
All the events in this system are immutable -- so if some property of an
event changes, it is cloned and modified in working-memory. For the case of
the interval events, initially the interval is inserted open-ended, and at
some point later closed and then modified.
This does not work with fusion however, since an event's duration is
maintained by the fact-handle not the event itself. Hence a modify with a
now closed interval (ie, a finite @duration) has no effect. I'm guessing the
temporal values are maintained the handle to ensure stable values for the
behaviors that trigger based on temporal values, which is reasonable.
So I'm looking for alternative designs. Some are:
1) Modeled the intervals as begin/end events, but that gets messy real
fast (have to correlate
the begin/end events somehow, can't use evaluators like 'includes' or
2) Retract the interval event when it is closed (this way closed intervals
no longer correlate
with other incoming events). But then we really have a manually
maintained state machine
using only facts, and there can be no reasoning over a series these
(eg, 3 downtimes longer than 2 minutes in the last hour).
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Is it possible to persist events (from drools fusion) with default jpa
mechanism? When I try to do this 'just like that' I get exception
org.drools.common.DefaultFactHandle incompatible with
It seems that session marshaller is not really aware of certain objects
being events, not facts.
The code I try is more or less like:
UserTransaction ut = ...
StatefulKnowledgeSession session = JPAKnowledgeService
.newStatefulKnowledgeSession(kbase, null, env);
StatefulKnowledgeSession sessionPersisted =
kbase, null, env );
sessionPersisted.insert(e2); (*) <- fails
When I use session instead of sessionPersisted - it works fine, when
e2 is a fact, not an event - it also works
I know that it may be awkward to persist events which have time
limitations, but I want to use time limits in rules which are like few
days - so I want to have some persistence in case of server shutdown.
I would be grateful for any comment,
Can we insert an Event in the RHS part of a rule to an entry-point?
basically i am trying to do this. Pls let me know if this is possible? if
not any alternative approaches? Any example would be useful pls
@role( event )
$tmp : TestClass()
$tmp.message == "TRUE"
TransactionEvent ev1 = new TransactionEvent (); // This should be
inserted in to an entry-pont "Temporal Reasoning" stream
insert (ev1) to entry-point "Temporal Reasoning"
rule "Temporal Reasoning"
$tmp : TransactionEvent ( message== "Temporal Reasoning") from entry-point
System.out.println("Rule fired due to entry point ");
I have spent several days writing rules and tests for them in Guvnor, and
kept having strange results. A test would sometimes fail, repeatedly, and
then finally start working after I would delete and recreate some portion
of it, or change a value.
After two of us spent many hours trying to identify the extent of the
problem, we concluded the following:
1. The problem happens under both IE and Firefox.
2. The problem happens less frequently under Firefox if we install and
turn on a third-party plug-in which disables Firefox caching web pages.
3. Saving a new rule or test will allow us to work with it (edit - save -
test scenarios). However, frequently the rule or test will just disappear
once we log out.
4. A "Save" and "Check-in" will often work correctly if we cross our
fingers and do the following:
a. Save it once (the screen updates, and you can check the
b. Refresh the browser
c. Make the change again
d. Save it a second time
5. After doing a "Save" and "Check-in", you can immediately do a "view
source" and see your changes in place. However, if you then close the
test (or rule) and re-open it, you will often find that the change is
gone, and the test or rule looks like it did before you made the change.
A sample screenshot appears below. In this case, I created the test with
the "performedTime" set to 20-Sep-2008. I ran the test and it failed,
because the rule was checking for greater than or equal to 21-Sep-2008. I
then changed the date on the test to 21-Sep-2008, did a "save changes" and
a "Check-in", and then ran the scenario again.
As you can see below, the asserted object contains the date 20-Sep-2008,
even though the test clearly shows 21-Sep-2008.
Does anybody have any ideas on this? If I copy the above test into a new
test, it will often work the first time, but then it may disappear, once I
logout, even though it was saved and checked-in.
It almost seems like there is something wrong with the imbedded
repository, and / or the first running of the test created fact objects
that are persisting and being found the second time I ran the changed
We are running the Final release of Drools Guvnor 5.1.1 found in
drools-5.1.1-guvnor.zip downloaded on 4-Sep-2010
We are running under Tomcat 6.0, with the recommended jar files replaced.
Thanks for your help!
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Hi All ,
I am able to configure oracle database in drools but now i am not able to
find how can i load rules from the DB and execute them , I gone through the
documentation but not able to get much information or might be i am missing
If any one can provide me a example or some pointer ,hints then it would be
I'm building a KnowledgeBase with KnowledgeAgent and a precompiled
rule package. When the package contains a rule using temporal operators
such "after" or "before" I get the exception listed at the end of this
I'm using the latest version of drools 5 and my runtime configuration
includes the following libraries:
* drools-core - the rule engine itself.
the rule causing such a behaviour is:
u1:UserType( firstName=="UserA" )
lie:UserEventType( event=="Login", user.id==u1.id)
loe:UserEventType(event=="Logout", user.id==u1.id, this before lie)
Message msg = new Message();msg.setText("Test2
java.lang.RuntimeException: KnowledgeAgent exception while trying to
Caused by: org.drools.RuntimeDroolsException: unable to determine
operator for symbol [before]
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
Can someone help? Thanks in advance.
here is my Error,rule and test scenario screen shots ...
Explanation about the rule:
compares modBrwrFullName and modCoBrwrFullName properties of LOSDocument
with the dmsName1 of DMSRulesHelper.
I wrote the test scenario similar to that...but it is not working...i really
banging my head with guvnor from the last three days for the solution...
please help me out to get this work done ...
Just moved to Drools 5.1, using a Guvnor package as the base for a
Knowledge Base with incremental updating enabled. Our resource is a
Guvnor PKG. We encounter the following error when a snapshot is made:
[2010:08:224 16:08:903:debug] KnowledgeAgent: Diffing: [UrlResource
[2010:08:224 16:08:935:debug] BinaryResourceDiffProducerImpl:
Comparing [Rule name=Resource Null-Checker, agendaGroup=MAIN,
salience=0, no-loop=false] against [Rule name=Resource Null-Checker,
agendaGroup=MAIN, salience=0, no-loop=false]
Exception in thread "Thread-30" org.drools.RuntimeDroolsException:
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException : [Rule name=Resource
Null-Checker, agendaGroup=MAIN, salience=0, no-loop=false]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
... 6 more
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: this MVELReturnValueExpression
must be compiled for equality
at java.util.Arrays.equals(Unknown Source)
at java.util.AbstractList.equals(Unknown Source)
... 11 more
The rule in question is quite straight-forward, works on the initial
load up and worked in 5.0.1 fine. It is not the rule that was just
changed. If I remove that rule, another is just substituted in its
place in the error message.
What might be causing this? If you need more information, please ask.
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