If you want to use FactTemplates as a temporary, unsupported approach,
feel free. There are unit tests that show how this work.
Btw when you use MVEL notation to access nested objects, like you do
with a Map, we just re-write it as an eval. This means you won't get any
of the indexing performance. You can still get indexing if you represent
your facts with FactTemplates.
Mark
Mark Proctor wrote:
Personally I don't like the idea of a Map as a model as it has no
type, so straight away you lose object level descrimination. Also a
Map is not declarative in defining what it is you are reasoning over.
It's a hack to get over the limitations of the current environment.
In the engine we have something called FactTemplats, which we do not
currently document - it's a hidden feature. These work much less Jess
Deftemplates, and where infact made so that we could support a
Jess/clips. The implementation is basically an array and uses name
tokenising to get access. i.e. you write person.name == "Godmar" and
we rewrite it as person.setField( 0, "Godmar" ). Although we haven't
yet got the rewritting part done so currently you have to manually do
the above, or make it lookup the position each time with
person.setField( "name", "Godmar" ). These FactTemplates can be
reasoned over in the LHS just like pojos.
However I'm not currently happy with the solution and thinking instead
of going down the route of runtime bean generation. This would allow
you to define models at runtime, without caring about the underlying
implementation, and still give us pojos to work with and also provides
more performance. further to this we really want to do our model
implementation with ontology support. So that users can supply static
and dynamic constraints to the properties they define on a class.
It's currently touch and go if either of these will make it into 5.0,
I'm really hoping that we can do the later solution, but we currently
have many more priorities :(
Mark
Godmar Back wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2008 12:30 PM, Edson Tirelli <tirelli(a)post.com> wrote:
>
>> Godmar,
>>
>> Shadow Facts are a necessary evil in current version. Basically what they
>> do is keep the working memory consistent in face of attribute changes on the
>> facts, that may happen both internally and externally to the working memory.
>> Our implementation to shadow facts is a lazy proxy that caches the
>> values until a safe point to synchronize the actual attribute value with the
>> one seen by the engine.
>>
>> So, the question is: given an object:
>>
>> (Map) fact
>>
>> How can we create an identical copy of it (shadow), if there is no
>> "clone" operation?
>>
>
> Can you explain why you require the use of "clone()"?
>
> Cloning a map is otherwise easy - it's also referred to as a "shallow
> copy" -- HashMap's HashMap(Map) constructor will do it.
>
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/HashMap.html#HashMap(ja...
> I know you know that, so explain what necessitates the use of clone().
>
>
>> More than that, the shadow must be a subclass of it.
>>
>
> java.util.HashMap is a subclass of Map.
>
>
>> Most Collection and Map implementations have a single parameter
>> constructor that allows us to do:
>>
>>
>> proxy = (ShadowProxy) this.shadowClass.getConstructor( new Class[]{cls}
>> ).newInstance( new Object[]{fact} );
>>
>> But the SingletonMap you were using does not accept that constructor.
>> So, one way is to explicit check if the fact is a SingletonMap and handle it
>> accordingly, but that is a specific class hack... is there any general
>> solution we can use?
>>
>>
>
> Forget about the SingletonMap. That was just one of the many things I
> tried and failed.
>
> Fundamentally, I would like Drools to process facts that were obtained
> from real-world sources, and these facts have properties I do not know
> in advance. Therefore, I cannot use beans (or using beans would be
> highly inconvenient since it will require changes to Java code
> whenever I'm referring to a new property, something I'd rather avoid.)
>
> - Godmar
>
>
>> []s
>> Edson
>>
>> 2008/2/20, Godmar Back <godmar(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I don't really understand what you mean by "shadow". What is
the
>>> purpose of such shadowing. Mark's email implies that it has to do with
>>> concurrency protection; it's not clear what that means.
>>>
>>> In my view, whatever purpose you pursue with "shadowing", it does
not
>>> justify treating beans and maps differently.
>>>
>>> Your example of class Person shows that. If a person has two
>>> attributes, name and age, then this is equivalent to a map with two
>>> keys 'name' and 'age'.
>>>
>>> Here's the mapping:
>>>
>>> p.getName() corresponds to m["name"]
>>> p.getAge() corresponds to m["age"]
>>>
>>> and setName/setAge accordingly.
>>>
>>> Mathematically, a bean is an associative array with a fixed set of
>>> keys (called "properties") that map to values. For all practical
>>> purposes, that is the same as a map. There's no reason to treat them
>>> differently. Wherever you'd do "getXXX()" with a bean you'd
do
>>> .get("XXX") with a map.
>>>
>>> - Godmar
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2008 11:25 AM, Edson Tirelli <tirelli(a)post.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, let me show one example. Imagine the class Person, with 2
>>>>
>> attributes
>>
>>>> (name and age) and the corresponding getter/setters.
>>>> What are the data for that fact that must be shadowed? easy answer:
>>>>
>> just
>>
>>>> shadow all getXXX() methods (getName and getAge).
>>>>
>>>> Now, take a Map. What is the data that must be shadowed?
>>>>
>>>> So, we do our best to work with facts that don't follow the
javabean
>>>> spec, but collections and maps are a complicated beast. Again, if you
>>>>
>> have
>>
>>>> suggestions on how to improve the current support we provide for them,
>>>> please share with us.
>>>>
>>>> []s
>>>> Edson
>>>>
>>>> 2008/2/20, Godmar Back <godmar(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2008 9:23 AM, Edson Tirelli <tirelli(a)post.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Godmar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Short answer: collection/maps objects are not javabeans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Explain why this is a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is it about JavaBeans that your algorithm relies upon? Is it
the
>>>>> fact that the set of properties remains fixed and can be determined
at
>>>>> (fact) insertion time via reflection?
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, I do not see any conceptual difference between a map and
a
>>>>>
>>>> bean.
>>>>
>>>>> If that is the difference, then please allow maps with an immutable
>>>>>
>> key
>>
>>>> set.
>>>>
>>>>> - Godmar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Long answer: collection/maps must be shadowed to ensure
>>>>>>
>> consistency
>>
>>>>>> during execution, but how can we shadow the data if it is not
>>>>>>
>> exposed in
>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>>> default, spec manner, as in javabeans? The algorithm we have in
>>>>>>
>> place
>>
>>>> right
>>>>
>>>>>> now is bellow. As you can see, it is a weak algo, but was the
best I
>>>>>>
>>>> could
>>>>
>>>>>> come up at that time. If you have any suggestions on how to
improve
>>>>>>
>>>> that, I
>>>>
>>>>>> appreciate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public Object getShadow(final Object fact) throws
>>>>>>
>>>> RuntimeDroolsException
>>>>
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> ShadowProxy proxy = null;
>>>>>> if ( isShadowEnabled() ) {
>>>>>> try {
>>>>>> if ( Collection.class.isAssignableFrom(
>>>>>>
>> this.shadowClass
>>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>>>> || Map.class.isAssignableFrom( this.shadowClass ) ) {
>>>>>> // if it is a collection, try to
instantiate
>>>>>>
>> using
>>
>>>>>> constructor
>>>>>> try {
>>>>>> proxy = (ShadowProxy)
>>>>>> this.shadowClass.getConstructor( new Class[]{cls} ).newInstance(
new
>>>>>> Object[]{fact} );
>>>>>> } catch ( Exception e ) {
>>>>>> // not possible to instantiate using
>>>>>>
>> constructor
>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> if ( proxy == null ) {
>>>>>> if ( this.instantiator == null ) {
>>>>>> this.setInstantiator();
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> proxy = (ShadowProxy)
>>>>>>
>>>> this.instantiator.newInstance();
>>>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> proxy.setShadowedObject( fact );
>>>>>> } catch ( final Exception e ) {
>>>>>> System.out.println( "shadow: "
+proxy.getClass() +
>>>>>>
>> ":" +
>>
>>>>>> fact.getClass() );
>>>>>> throw new RuntimeDroolsException( "Error
creating
>>>>>>
>> shadow
>>
>>>>>> fact for object: " + fact,
>>>>>> e );
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> return proxy;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> []s
>>>>>> Edson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/2/19, Godmar Back <godmar(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a general comment, the examples for which I find Drools
failing
>>>>>>>
>> are
>>
>>>>>>> not the actual examples for which my application is failing.
It's
>>>>>>>
>> just
>>
>>>>>>> the smallest test case I was able to eliminate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm now a bit concerned about your comment that Maps and
>>>>>>>
>> Collections
>>
>>>>>>> aren't well-defined as Facts. I am planning to make
extensive use
>>>>>>>
>> of
>>
>>>>>>> them (that's also why I'd prefer to use the MVEL
dialect, because
>>>>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>>>>> Java I cannot do this without creating Bean wrappers.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you elaborate what makes the semantics not
"well-defined".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm specifically concerned with immutable maps (such as
the one
>>>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>>>>> would have been returned by Collections.singletonMap), and
with
>>>>>>> collections of maps (such as those obtained via a
"from"..."
>>>>>>>
>> clause).
>>
>>>>>>> I need to insert immutable maps as facts; I understand that
the
>>>>>>>
>> items
>>
>>>>>>> returned by "from" aren't inserted as facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Godmar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2008 3:11 PM, Edson Tirelli
<tirelli(a)post.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drools tries to create the ShadowProxy. The reason is
that it
>>>>>>>>
>>>> does
>>>>
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> know about the implementation... it just knows it is a
Map and
>>>>>>>>
>> as
>>
>>>> so, it
>>>>
>>>>>>>> must be shadowed. Problem is that SingletonMap is either
final
>>>>>>>>
>> or
>>
>>>> does
>>>>
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have a default constructor.
>>>>>>>> My recommendation, besides opening a JIRA for this,
is avoid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> inserting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> collections/maps directly as facts. The semantic for such
facts
>>>>>>>>
>> is
>>
>>>> not
>>>>
>>>>>>>> clearly defined and it may cause undesired behavior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>>> Edson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2008/2/19, Godmar Back <godmar(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> usings Drools 4.0.4 and MVEL 1.4, this simple rule:
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> package test;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> import java.util.Collections;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dialect "mvel"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rule "Rule #1"
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>
insert(Collections.singletonMap("content", "hello"));
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> produces:
>>>>>>>>> java.lang.IllegalAccessError: class
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.shadow.java.util.Collections$SingletonMapShadowProxy
>>
>>>> cannot
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> access its superclass
java.util.Collections$SingletonMap
>>>>>>>>> at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native
Method)
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:620)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.rule.MapBackedClassLoader.fastFindClass(MapBackedClassLoader.java:60)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.rule.MapBackedClassLoader.loadClass(MapBackedClassLoader.java:79)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.reteoo.Rete$ClassObjectTypeConf.loadOrGenerateProxy(Rete.java:547)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.reteoo.Rete$ClassObjectTypeConf.defineShadowProxyData(Rete.java:494)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
org.drools.reteoo.Rete$ClassObjectTypeConf.<init>(Rete.java:461)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
org.drools.reteoo.Rete.assertObject(Rete.java:152)
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> org.drools.reteoo.ReteooRuleBase.assertObject(ReteooRuleBase.java:192)
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.reteoo.ReteooWorkingMemory.doInsert(ReteooWorkingMemory.java:71)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.insert(AbstractWorkingMemory.java:909)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.common.AbstractWorkingMemory.insert(AbstractWorkingMemory.java:881)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.base.DefaultKnowledgeHelper.insert(DefaultKnowledgeHelper.java:67)
>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>> org.drools.base.DefaultKnowledgeHelper.insert(DefaultKnowledgeHelper.java:61)
>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not clear to me why Drools creates Proxies
for such
>>>>>>>>>
>> classes
>>
>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> java.util.Collections, or does MVEL do it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Godmar
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