Re: [aerogear-dev] [Unified Push Server] Roles structure & password management

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > > On Nov 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > If it can be made for the next release I would say let's keep it simple > for now, 3 roles : > > next ==> 0.9.0 (aka Nov. release) or after that ?

> > -admin : can do all the CRUD operations + creating/deleting users > -developer: can do all the CRUD operations > -simple: can just do read operations > > > +1 > +1 on these three roles > > > The default user (admin/123) should have the "admin" role. > > Users created by the admin can have the role developer or simple > > Users created by the admin will have the default 123 password to be > changed the first time they log in. > > But ! > > The big questions remains around design, how to design that ? > > +11 > > Seb > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt;wrote: > >> What's the plan moving forward here ? >> -Matthias >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >> >>> Well, yes now that you said that :) Security based on Grouping. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> you mean grouping ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>>>> matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> any corp. org. may want some with just read-only access; >>>>>> The project lead is allowed to update the keys etc, but all the >>>>>> /normal/ developers can just see the IDs/secrets (so that they can use it >>>>>> in their server apps). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is also an interesting point, at some point don't we want the >>>>> "read" rights limited to a single/set of pushapps or even a level deeper >>>>> based on variants ? >>>>> Maybe in a big company, Bob the slacker intern has read access for >>>>> his supracool push app but also has access to the Public Relation Push App >>>>> keys ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I guess that's not really (at least for me) closely related to a >>>>>> 'test via admin ui' feature >>>>>> >>>>>> -M >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Corinne Krych < >>>>>> corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure about the role: user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What will be the use case for this one? >>>>>>> One use case, I see is if the 'user' is a tester. If we had the >>>>>>> feature to send push notification test via admin UI (as we discussed in [1] >>>>>>> and [2]). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ++ >>>>>>> Corinne >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> http://aerogear-dev.1069024.n5.nabble.com/aerogear-dev-Push-Server-Admin-... >>>>>>> [2] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Sebastien Blanc < >>>>>>> scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Lucas Holmquist < >>>>>>> lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sebastien Blanc < >>>>>>> scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> So for the next Unified Push Release (0.9) it would be nice if >>>>>>> we could have some decent User Management, so I'm bumping this thread again. >>>>>>> >> Some existing pointer : >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> - this thread :) >>>>>>> >> - https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-351 >>>>>>> >> - https://gist.github.com/sebastienblanc/6547605 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> First point to define is : >>>>>>> >> - What roles do we want ? And what can these Roles do ? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Admin - Can do all things including creating other users >>>>>>> > Developer - can create apps and such. no access to the user >>>>>>> management UI >>>>>>> > User - read only - not sure if this one is needed >>>>>>> > Yes, not sure also but why not ? Could be useful for a monitoring >>>>>>> app/RHQ plugin that just want to retrieve the list of active pushapps ... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > +1 - I like these three different roles, including their rights >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> - How can these Roles be created (granted ...) >>>>>>> >> - Design >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I think we are still waiting on Hylke for this? not sure >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Seb >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>>>>>> matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Apostolos Emmanouilidis < >>>>>>> aemmanou(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >> Following the discussion on GitHub [1], here are some points to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> >> discussed about the user management flow: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> - Does it make sense to add a role select field (admin, >>>>>>> developer) on >>>>>>> >> the enrollment page? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> hrm, and (perhaps later) a section where to define the roles ? I >>>>>>> think it's a good point, but not sure we need all this 'now' :-) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> - Should we add an additional password field (password >>>>>>> confirmation) on >>>>>>> >> the enrollment page? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> yeah, would be nice >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> - I think that the current logged in user shouldn't be available >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> >> deletion >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> yep, I agree >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> [1]: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unifiedpush-server-admin-ui/pull/6 >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Fri, 2013-09-13 at 10:15 +0200, Sebastien Blanc wrote: >>>>>>> >> > A Jira has been created >>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-351 >>>>>>> >> > And draft structure has been created >>>>>>> >> > here https://gist.github.com/sebastienblanc/6547605 that can >>>>>>> be used >>>>>>> >> > as base for the Pull Request. >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Douglas Campos <qmx(a)qmx.me&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 09:39:28AM -0300, Bruno >>>>>>> Oliveira >>>>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>>>> >> > > Would be nice to have a 8 hands document on it >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > who's going to start the pull request on it? it's >>>>>>> SPECTIME! >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > -- >>>>>>> >> > qmx >>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> > aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >> > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> > aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >> > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> -- >>>>>>> >> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>>>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>>>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>> >>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev