Hi Mr. Andersen, >> Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API The "Redesigned metamodel" goal, which was planned for 4.1, surely would have caused lots of disjunct API's again, but now I saw on the hibernate roadmap, that in meantime the "Redesigned metamodel" goal has been shifted to Hibernate 5.0. So im asking, if nevertheless 4.1 will still cause similar disjunct API ? Exists there a roadmap for Hibernate-Tools? Can hibernate-tools users hope to can switch to Hibernate4 or will they must wait until Hibernate5 ? Best regards Günther Demetz Würth Phoenix S.r.l. Günther Demetz Product Development (CIS) Via Kravogl 4 I-39100 Bolzano Direct: +39 0471 564 061 Fax: +39 0471 564 122 E-Mail: guenther.demetz(a)wuerth-phoenix.com Website: www.wuerth-phoenix.com -----Original Message----- From: Max Rydahl Andersen [mailto:max.andersen@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:05 AM To: Strong Liu Cc: Demetz, Guenther; Hibernate hibernate-dev Subject: Re: Question in relation to Hibernate4.0 Final JBoss Tools M5 have an experimental version of the eclipse plugins that works against both 3.6 and 4.0. We'll get that merged into hibernate tools in the new year. Problem is that it seems 4.1 will cause similar disjunct API so the problem is just getting worse to keep up and keep a stable API/access for hibernate tools users :( /max On Dec 19, 2011, at 14:11, Strong Liu wrote: > Max? > > ------------------------- > Best Regards, > > Strong Liu <stliu at hibernate.org> > http://about.me/stliu/bio > > On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote: > >> Hi Strong Liu, >> >> do you know, when it is planned a Hibernate-Tools release compatible to Hibernate-Core 4.0 Final ? >> >> Me and probably many other hibernate users cannot switch to >> Hibernate-Core 4.0 as long there no compatible hibernate-tools version available. >> >> best regards >> Guenther Demetz >> >> On 09/07/2011 02:10 PM, Strong Liu wrote: >>> that just because of we don't have enough resource working on >>> hibernate-tools :( meanwhile, you can use hibernate-tools with >>> hibernate-core 3.6 to generate schemas >>> >>> and thanks for the patches i'm working on it >>> >>> ----------- >>> Strong Liu <stliu(a)hibernate.org&gt; >>> http://hibernate.org >>> http://github.com/stliu >>> >>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Guenther Demetz wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Strong Liu, >>>> >>>> as requested I attached a testcase to HHH-6635. >>>> >>>> I have another question regarding Hibernate4: >>>> >>>> Till now I used hbm2ddl ant-target of hibernate-tools to create new database schemas. >>>> but I noticed that so far all Hibernate4 prereleases were provided without a compatible version of hibernate-tools. >>>> >>>> -hibernate-tools3.2.4.GA still makes reference to >>>> org.hibernate.util.StringHelper which in hibernate4 has been moved >>>> to package org.hibernate.internal.util >>>> >>>> -method >>>> org.hibernate.tool.hbm2ddl.ManagedProviderConnectionHelper#prepare( >>>> ) in Hiberante-core 4.0.0CR2 has an unimplemented body, so no >>>> connection is provided for the hbm2ddl tool >>>> >>>> So my question is:will hibernate-tools still be supported with hibernate4 or has this module become deprecated ? >>>> >>>> best regards >>>> Guenther Demetz >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Würth Phoenix S.r.l. >>>> Günther Demetz >>>> Product Development (CIS) >>>> Via Kravogl 4 >>>> I-39100 Bolzano >>>> Direct: +39 0471 564 061 >>>> Fax: +39 0471 564 122 >>>> E-Mail: guenther.demetz(a)wuerth-phoenix.com >>>> Website: www.wuerth-phoenix.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Würth Phoenix S.r.l. >> Günther Demetz >> Product Development (CIS) >> Via Kravogl 4 >> I-39100 Bolzano >> Direct: +39 0471 564 061 >> Fax: +39 0471 564 122 >> E-Mail: guenther.demetz(a)wuerth-phoenix.com >> Website: www.wuerth-phoenix.com > /max http://about.me/maxandersen