Without having had a chance yet to look, what exactly are the proposed changes in regards to lists and bags? As for the code snippet and question, you'd need to find out why the collection is considered dirty on merge... -----Original Message----- From: Josh Moore [mailto:josh.moore@gmx.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:38 AM To: Steve Ebersole Cc: hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Possible to confirm that versioning is broken forPersistentSets? Got the fixes in r10470. Thanks. I updated HHH-1668 -- PList and PBag still have issues (failing tests). I can add a patch if you don't have it local, Steve. The failing tests I had for PMap have apparently been fixed. I'm also having problems again with HHH-1401. Added a test (see link below), but basically it comes down to this: // ... test prelude Parent p = new Parent(); Child c = new Child(); p.getChildren().add( c ); c.setParent( p ); s.save( p ); // ... test postlude // ... new session Parent p2 = s.merge( p ); // ... test postlude assertTrue( p.getVersion().equals( p2.getVersion() ); // BOOM Is this the expected behavior that merging a collection will _always_ cause a version update?? --[links]-- http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-1668 http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-1401 http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/secure/attachment/126 86/HHH1401Test.java