[ https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFCORE-4291?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugi... ] Brian Stansberry commented on WFCORE-4291: ------------------------------------------ [~bmaxwell] My expectation is this will re-introduce the same problems that the 'graceful startup' fixed. I regard this as a request to let users deal with those problems. which, TBH, I don't mind doing; people have the right to decide whether that is acceptable. And, with mod_cluster it is possible to prevent external requests while stuff having app A invoke app B over localhost:8080, or any IP on which the server is directly listening. If there's an elegant way to limit requests and make an HTTP-equivalent to a local EJB call, great. But I suspect attempts at that will be buggy or hard to maintain or lead to requests for more exceptions. And simply letting the request get through undertow subsystem checks doesn't mean other parts of the server won't react negatively; see my "Pros of a)" section in the wildfly-dev thread. So, I'm not really inclined to try and solve the race problems. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v7.12.1#712002)