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BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public (Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Mark Proctor
Priority: Optional
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
would allow the implementor to inject their CustomSelector class.
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Michael Neale reassigned JBRULES-1020:
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Assignee: Michael Neale (was: Mark Proctor)
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
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Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Priority: Optional
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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This will need to work on the AssetItem level.
I see 2 ways for this to work:
1) It purely filters items - so the output is only the items that match
2) It will look back through the history of an asset to find a match (so you get the last
approved asset, for instance).
Also, I think a GUI can provide most common options (so pluggable is only used in
exceptional circumstances). eg chose by status, other meta data, and if to filter or use
"most recent version".
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Priority: Optional
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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New subject: [JBoss JIRA] Updated: (JBRULES-1020) BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Michael Neale updated JBRULES-1020:
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Priority: Major (was: Optional)
Would be good if we get a patch for this, will see.
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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waiting for input form Barry...
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Issue Type: Feature Request
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Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Barry Knapp commented on JBRULES-1020:
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A filter for rules so the output is only the items that match would work well.
Here is a use case using 5 attributes of a rule:
1. Effective Date
2. Expiration Date
3. Test Effective Date
4. Test Expiration Date
5. Tested Status
There are 2 deployment types, one for deploying to test servers and one for production
servers:
1. Test Server : Users will create snapshot of rules to deploy to the Test Servers
containing rules that meet the following criteria:
Test Effective Date >= Today
Test Expiration Date <= Today
2. Production Server: Users will create snapshot of rules to deploy to the Production
Servers containing rules that meet the following criteria:
Effective Date >=Today
Expiration Date >= Today
Tested Status = true
Justification:
1. Users must test new rules in the test servers, prior to moving them to production.
2. Users must test the absence of rules in the test servers, prior to removing them from
production.
3. Users must test the replacement of rules in the test servers, such as when the logic
of a rule is found to be incorrect and it is replaced by a new rule.
In my implementation I am always using the most recent version, so there is not much need
for the historical search to meet this requirement.
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BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Issue Type: Feature Request
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Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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Barry - what do you mean by testing a rule? My take on this is that in different
environments you have different rules included/excluded (not just different versions of
rules) - my point of confusion is how this can work? How do you isolate testing to just a
rule or rules - aren't you testing the system behaviour as a whole?
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Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
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Mark Proctor updated JBRULES-1020:
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Fix Version/s: 4.0.1
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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How are the rules marked as "tested" and who sets the effective dates for
testing? is it manual?
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
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Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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One idea on how to do this as an advanced feature:
have a config file on the classpath that specifies the selectors available. They are a
class that implements certain interfaces. Out of the box there are none, but if you add
one in, then you can choose it in the GUI when you go to build a package (it will show up
a list of them, you pick the appropriate one) - that allows users to define them in any
way they see fit.
This does NOT however address fields that don't currently exist (like tested dates
etc).
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
----------------------------------------------------------
Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale updated JBRULES-1020:
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Comment: was deleted
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
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Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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One idea on how to do this as an advanced feature:
have a config file on the classpath that specifies the selectors available. They are a
class that implements certain interfaces. Out of the box there are none, but if you add
one in, then you can choose it in the GUI when you go to build a package (it will show up
a list of them, you pick the appropriate one) - that allows users to define them in any
way they see fit.
This does NOT however address fields that don't currently exist (like tested dates
etc).
Optionally, could provide a drop down of status boxes, and perhaps a selector for
categories or other attributes to filter purely in the GUI (however that will not automate
things, just provide a GUI to choose from).
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Michael Neale commented on JBRULES-1020:
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OK I think I have a general simple solution:
When building a package, we have a choice to either build the lot, or enter a custom
selector criteria (which may be either a SQL style predicate - or an EL expression -
haven't decided yet). There can be some buttons to create some sample ones for the
common cases.
however, this does NOT remember any past selectors as entered (only the browser memory
will) - but I can't see a way around that unless we create another place to store
these "preferences" or selectors for running again at a future time (which seems
overkill).
That or we can allow admins to configure a properties file with a fixed list of selectors
to choose from - which option sounds better?
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
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Barry Knapp commented on JBRULES-1020:
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My Definition of Rule Testing: Testing new rule with existing rules that will be in
production with the new rule, in a systems integrated environment.
Here is an example, I have a production server with 100 rules and a rule #1 that says if
Driver Age < 21 then set Fact Risky Driver
Due to some change in company policy, I need to replace this rule #1 with 2 new rules.
Rule #2 : if Driver Age < 21 and Driver has no accidents then set Fact Young Driver
Rule #3 : if Driver Age < 21 and Driver has >0 accidents then set Fact Risky Driver
I would need an Integration test environment to test Rule #2 and Rule #3 with all the
other 99 production rules, but Rule #1 should not be included in the test environment,
since my intention is for Rules #2 and #3 to replace Rule #1.
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
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Barry Knapp commented on JBRULES-1020:
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How are the rules marked as "tested" and who sets the
effective dates for testing? is it manual?
The rules will be manually updated with "Tested", Effective Date, Expiration
Date, Test Effective Date and Test Expiration Date by the business user. In the long run
I would like to automate the tested flag to true when the snapshot containing that rule is
deployed to the test environment, but no time for that right now. :-)
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Michael Neale [15/Aug/07 10:09 PM] How are the rules marked as "tested" and who
sets the effective dates for testing? is it manual?
have a config file on the classpath that specifies the selectors
available. They are a class that implements certain interfaces. Out of the box there
are none, but if you add one in, then you can choose it in the GUI when you go to build a
package (it will show up a list of them, you pick the
appropriate one) - that allows users to define them in any way they see fit.
This does NOT however address fields that don't currently exist (like tested dates
etc).
This would probably work well for me, since the application will give my class control
where I can look up in a custom database table or repository extension for my custom rule
properties and values.
That or we can allow admins to configure a properties file with a
fixed list of selectors to choose from - which option sounds better?
The admin configuration of the properties file would be perfect. The selective deployment
script are tightly tied to the rule management process and rule life cycle. These will be
defined one time by IT and probably see little change after that.
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
would allow the implementor to inject their CustomSelector class.
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New subject: [JBoss JIRA] Closed: (JBRULES-1020) BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
[ http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020?page=all ]
Michael Neale closed JBRULES-1020.
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Resolution: Done
done for 4.0.1 allowing custom selectors (either a drl or a class implementation can be
configured by a sys admin).
BRMS Custom Rule Selector for Creating Deployable Packages
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Key: JBRULES-1020
URL: http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBRULES-1020
Project: JBoss Rules
Issue Type: Feature Request
Security Level: Public(Everyone can see)
Components: drools-brms
Environment: general
Reporter: Barry Knapp
Assigned To: Michael Neale
Fix For: 4.0.1
Use Case : Ability to include or exclude rules in a deployable package based on rule meta
data or custom rule attributes.
Add an extension point to the BRMS for deciding which rules should be included in a
deployable package.
A CustomSelector interface with an boolean accepts(Rule) method would allow implementors
to create a class and implement the accepts method. The custom method could then analyze
the rule to determine if the rule should be included in the package being generated by
return true for inclusion. A property file with CustomExtractor=com...implementing class
would allow the implementor to inject their CustomSelector class.
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Mark Proctor (JIRA)
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