Trying to move forward to Eclipse 3.4 so got it set up and now Drools 5.0.0.M3 eclipse plugin and feature. Appears to have no effect, so am guessing I have to load much more than that. The documentation implies that I ought to be up and running. I was able to create a new Drools project, but it would not function, asking for a run time Drools setup. Removed these and tried to install 4.07 using the Eclipse 3.3 update site, and that failed. Removed 4.07 artifacts as far as I can tell, but now when I put the 5.0.0 feature and plugin back, there is no sign of Drools. I am guessing that trying to load the 4.07 from the update site has done something subtle to my Eclipse setup, but no idea. Shorter question is whether there is more to installing Drools 5 in Eclipse than is in the documentation. Thanks for any assistance. - Mike