+1 (and that was what I also suggest in my first reply but maybe was not
really clear :) )
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>wrote:
VERY NICE !
+1
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Kris Borchers <kris(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Kris Borchers <kris(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Kris Borchers <kris(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Sebastien Blanc
<scm.blanc(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> That looks great !
>>>> Maybe one suggestion, like the PipeManager holds Pipe objecst and the
>>>> DataStore hold Store objects, maybe the Notifier could hold Channels ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> var myChannel = AeroGear.Notifier.addChannel(String channel);
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You still want to give that 'channel' object a "notification
listener:
>>>
>>> var myChannel = AeroGear.Notifier.addChannel(String channel, func
>>> callback);
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> myChannel.onMessage(data);
>>>>
>>>>
>>> that onMEssage would be only invoked by the 'underlying' app; Or
what
>>> do you mean?
>>>
>>> You registered callback receives the payload/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> myChannel.publishMessage(data);
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Usually it's nicer of the object just sets the 'channel' - even
JMS
>>> does allow you this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17802_01/products/products/jms/javadoc-102a/ja...
>>>
>>> send(topic, msg);
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And maybe pushing the concept further, the notifier could hold
"clients" which holds channels ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not really sure we need to build all this around it;
>>>
>>>
>>> Most libs (that we may wrap: vertx, stomp.js) don't do that... and we
>>> would add (I guess) un-needed API code…
>>>
>>> The reason I would say we need this is that it would better match our
>>> other modular APIs
>>>
>>
>> Not sure that's a too strong reason;
>>
>>
>>> and allow for easier creation, management and use of multiple
>>> messaging services. I'm imagining someone building a stock trading app
that
>>> has a messaging system with their back end but they also want the app to
>>> subscribe to a stock ticker type messaging service. This would allow for a
>>> single point for managing those connections.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You can still subscribe to multiple 'channels':
>> notifier.subscribe("channelA", callbackOne);
>> notifier.subscribe("channelB", callbackTwo);
>>
>> I understand that you want to organize the 'channels' in some sorta
>> system; but... the problem is:
>> Most lib's don't do that - so we would have to add "management"
code for
>> the underlying libraries, right ?
>> Not sure that's good use of time - and since most libs don't store all
>> the channels in some management - there may be a reason, why messaging libs
>> are not doing it
>>
>>
>> Organization is more a side-effect. I guess my concern is how do I have
>> a vert.x backed notifier and an atmosphere backed notifier in the same app?
>> I think it would be nice for users if they can create both of those in a
>> single statement and just specify which type as an option rather than
>> having to create them separately with 2 different notifiers.
>>
>
> can u share some pseudo code ?
>
>
> How about something like this?
>
https://gist.github.com/kborchers/8a8c43a2f927357c467c
>
>
>
>
>> I guess it's not a huge deal I just thought it would add some
>> convenience.
>>
>
>
> sounds reasonable, but with some code it's easier ;-)
>
>
>>
>> -M
>>
>>
>>>
>>> -M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>> matzew(a)apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, I had a brief chat with Kris about a potential AeroGear *
>>>>> Notifier* Client API...
>>>>>
>>>>> The basic idea is to *wrap* messaging APIs (e.g. Stomp.js,
Vertx's
>>>>> eventbus or Socket.io/Engine.io) behind a common client
'interface'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically the AeroGear-Notifier should be able to *connect* to a
>>>>> messaging system in order to *subscribe* to a channel to reveice
>>>>> messages from that channel. The AG-Notifier is also able to *publish*
messages
>>>>> to ANY channel. Of course,*unsubscribe* and *disconnect* are
>>>>> required too...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure... the above is not (YET) really a *SPEC*, but it's
start....
>>>>> the JS API of the AG-Notifier (DRAFT 0.0.1) could looks like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> /** * Connects to a given URL. The callback is invoked after a
connection has been established. In case of an error, an Error * object will be passed to
the callback */AeroGear.Notifier.connect(String url, function callback);
>>>>> /** * Tears down the connection. The callback is invoked after a
connection has been closed. In case of an error, an * Error object will be passed to the
callback */AeroGear.Notifier.disconnect(function callback);
>>>>> /** * Subscribes to a channel. The callback function is invoked for
every message, received on the given channel. */AeroGear.Notifier.subscribe(String
channel, function callback);
>>>>> /** * Removes the subscription of the given channel.
*/AeroGear.Notifier.unsubscribe(String channel);
>>>>> /** * Publishes a message to a given channel
*/AeroGear.Notifier.publish(String channel, Object message);
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a *STATE-MASHINE* would be nice as well:
>>>>>
>>>>> AeroGear.Notifier.CONNECTING = 0;AeroGear.Notifier.OPEN =
1;AeroGear.Notifier.CLOSING = 2;AeroGear.Notifier.CLOSED = 3;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
<
https://gist.github.com/matzew/bd4f3c41e1114c225eb1#implementation-of-the...
>>>>> of the Adapters
>>>>> The different adapter implementations will be done separately:
>>>>> ag-notifier-vertx.js...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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