Re: [aerogear-dev] [UPS] What should the Top 3 Most Active Variants shows ?

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > >> Hum, after thinking and looking a bit I think it's easier and more clear >> to show the "real" 3 most recent active variants like you mentioned, along >> with the numbers of receivers for the last push messages (but the label >> should be made more obvious to explain this number, working on that s well) >> > > sounds good w/ me > Ok, here a last proposition, because our current model do really fit what we want to do : What about showing the 3 last activity (regardless of the variant) , basically a select on the PushMessageInformation sorted on submitDate and we pick the 3 first one ?

> > -M > > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>>>> matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So the questions are, I think: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) what does 'active' mean? >>>>>> * total activity >>>>>> * or recent activity >>>>>> >>>>>> Having [1] in mind, I *think* the three most recent active variants >>>>>> makes sense >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) what number do we provide for that variant: >>>>>> a) number of receivers/active tokens that received the last Push >>>>>> message >>>>>> b) total number of all receivers, in history >>>>>> c) number of total push messages, per variant >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Here, I *think* that b) does not make sense, having [1] in mind. I >>>>>> think presenting a) or c) as the number on that "three recent active" >>>>>> variants is a nice info. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok , but imagine this we have 4 variants, A,B,C,D. >>>>> They all sent the same messages within the same hour , starting with : >>>>> A sends 5000 messages >>>>> B sends 100 messages >>>>> C sends 15 messages >>>>> D sends 50 messages >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think messages == receivers ? (I doubt that one variant will send 5k >>>> of push messages - I'd try to sue the company for that amount of spam on my >>>> phone) >>>> >>> yeah receivers :) >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> The top 3 recent active are B,C and D , it's a bit a pita A do not >>>>> show up, >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> that's life! :) >>>> >>>> >>>>> since it was really the more active. >>>>> Shall we define active within a period (24 hours ? ) ? >>>>> >>>> >>>> doesn't make that even more complex ? >>>> >>> Well, not that much I think since we are already going to introduce a >>> new query based on dates. I will take a look. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sebi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -Matthias >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-673 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Sebastien Blanc < >>>>>> scm.blanc(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I decided to start a new thread after some discussions we had on a >>>>>>> previous thread[1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, we are talking about this part of the dashboard : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: screenshot-1.png - Latest 25/Jul/14 8:20 AM - Sebastien >>>>>>> Blanc] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It appeared that is not really clear what we want to show there, as >>>>>>> a side note, the current query behind this is not correct and should change >>>>>>> whatever we decide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, what can we show here : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Show the most (three) recent active variants (and their # of >>>>>>> receivers) >>>>>>> Active means here, the 3 latest variants that sent a Push Message. >>>>>>> The term "receivers" can also be confusing , do we want to show : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1.a : The number of receivers/active tokens that received the last >>>>>>> Push message (i.e : Push Message A sent to 10 people and Push >>>>>>> Message B to 5 people, we show 5) ? >>>>>>> 1.b : The total number of receivers/actives tokens of this variant >>>>>>> (i.e : Push Message A sent to 10 people and Push Message B to 5 people, we >>>>>>> show 15) ? >>>>>>> 1.c : The total number of Push Messages sent (i.e : Push Message A >>>>>>> sent to 10 people and Push Message B to 5 people, we show 2). ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Show the most active variants (and their # of receivers) >>>>>>> Almost same than 1. but here we look at all the variants even those >>>>>>> without an recent activity. >>>>>>> Here again 1.a/1.b or 1.c applies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The core question, IMO, is what would be an useful information for >>>>>>> the user ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sebi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/aerogear-dev/2014-July/008548.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>>> >>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>> >>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev