is it possible to do both? On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device metadata.... So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting data.... However we could nuke em, not sure.... Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the data around, a bit .... I am not sure... -Matthias -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a variant, the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a "remove all installations" checkbox or something

On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: What do you mean with both ? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > is it possible to do both? > On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > wrote: > > I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device > metadata.... > > So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations are > NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting data.... > > > However we could nuke em, not sure.... > > Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? > > Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the data > around, a bit .... > > I am not sure... > > > -Matthias > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a variant, > the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a "remove all > installations" checkbox or something > Ah - that would be an interesting option; Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or would that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a trigger on DELETE then thats there responsibility * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some admin can do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) "relocate" them to a different variant? yup -M > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > wrote: > > What do you mean with both ? > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > >> is it possible to do both? >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> wrote: >> >> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device >> metadata.... >> >> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations >> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting data.... >> >> >> However we could nuke em, not sure.... >> >> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? >> >> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the data >> around, a bit .... >> >> I am not sure... >> >> >> -Matthias >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke [checkbox] option provided from REST API as well?

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > That sounds good > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com >wrote: > > > > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com >wrote: > > > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a variant, > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a "remove all > >> installations" checkbox or something > >> > > > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; > > > > > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or would > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? > > > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a trigger on > > DELETE then thats there responsibility > > > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some admin can > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) > > "relocate" them to a different variant? > > > > yup > > > > > > > > -M > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > >> wrote: > >> > >> What do you mean with both ? > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > >> > >>> is it possible to do both? > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device > >>> metadata.... > >>> > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting data.... > >>> > >>> > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... > >>> > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? > >>> > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the data > >>> around, a bit .... > >>> > >>> I am not sure... > >>> > >>> > >>> -Matthias > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Matthias Wessendorf > >>> > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Matthias Wessendorf > >> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > >> _______________________________________________ > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

I don't think a dialog here is a very elegant solution. If the usecase is to preserve the data for potential stats,

we should provide a nice way to view stats about push notifications, and not bother people with an implementation detail of the admin UI.

Hylke On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko <kpiwko(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke [checkbox] option > provided from REST API as well? > yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the message to the server > > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 > Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > That sounds good > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com > >wrote: > > > > > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a > variant, > > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a > "remove all > > >> installations" checkbox or something > > >> > > > > > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; > > > > > > > > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: > > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or would > > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? > > > > > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a trigger > on > > > DELETE then thats there responsibility > > > > > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some admin > can > > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) > > > "relocate" them to a different variant? > > > > > > yup > > > > > > > > > > > > -M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> What do you mean with both ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist > > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > > >> > > >>> is it possible to do both? > > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device > > >>> metadata.... > > >>> > > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its > installations > > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting > data.... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... > > >>> > > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? > > >>> > > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the > data > > >>> around, a bit .... > > >>> > > >>> I am not sure... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -Matthias > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Matthias Wessendorf > > >>> > > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Matthias Wessendorf > > >> > > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

Then can you tell me the reasons why you'd want to do this? If I'm interested in sending push notifications, why would I be interested in database table rows? Just trying to figure out what problem you're actually trying to address here, before cluttering the UI with extra things. :) Hylke On 22/11/2013 15:04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I don't think a dialog here is a very elegant solution. If the usecase is to preserve the data for potential stats, > > not at all - it's about deleting the entities from the database - or not > > we should provide a nice way to view stats about push notifications, and not bother people with an implementation detail of the admin UI. > > not about stats at all; > > > > Hylke > > > > > On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko <kpiwko(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke [checkbox] option >> provided from REST API as well? >> >> yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the message to the server >> >> >> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 >> Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: >> >> > That sounds good >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >> > > >> > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a variant, >> > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a "remove all >> > >> installations" checkbox or something >> > >> >> > > >> > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; >> > > >> > > >> > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: >> > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or would >> > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? >> > > >> > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a trigger on >> > > DELETE then thats there responsibility >> > > >> > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some admin can >> > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) >> > > "relocate" them to a different variant? >> > > >> > > yup >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -M >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> What do you mean with both ? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist >> > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> is it possible to do both? >> > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device >> > >>> metadata.... >> > >>> >> > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations >> > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting data.... >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... >> > >>> >> > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? >> > >>> >> > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the data >> > >>> around, a bit .... >> > >>> >> > >>> I am not sure... >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -Matthias >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Matthias Wessendorf >> > >>> >> > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Matthias Wessendorf >> > >> >> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Matthias Wessendorf >> > > >> > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>> wrote: the admin ui is just one example, you could also use cURL. the problem is that the database will start to get a shit ton of orphaned records if we don't have an option to cascade a delete Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the things? If folks really want to 'safe' data (e.g. device metadata), they would be requesting that ? -Matthias On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: > Then can you tell me the reasons why you'd want to do this? > If I'm interested in sending push notifications, why would I be > interested in database table rows? > > Just trying to figure out what problem you're actually trying to > address here, before cluttering the UI with extra things. :) > > Hylke > > On 22/11/2013 15:04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com >> <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> I don't think a dialog here is a very elegant solution. If >> the usecase is to preserve the data for potential stats, >> >> >> not at all - it's about deleting the entities from the database >> - or not >> >> we should provide a nice way to view stats about push >> notifications, and not bother people with an implementation >> detail of the admin UI. >> >> >> not about stats at all; >> >> >> >> Hylke >> >> >> >> >> On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko >>> <kpiwko(a)redhat.com <mailto:kpiwko@redhat.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke >>> [checkbox] option >>> provided from REST API as well? >>> >>> >>> yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the >>> message to the server >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 >>> Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org >>> <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> wrote: >>> >>> > That sounds good >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui >>> and you delete a variant, >>> > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog >>> could include a "remove all >>> > >> installations" checkbox or something >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: >>> > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that >>> information? (or would >>> > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS >>> table)? >>> > > >>> > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants >>> to setup a trigger on >>> > > DELETE then thats there responsibility >>> > > >>> > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? >>> (so that some admin can >>> > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to >>> kinda (manually) >>> > > "relocate" them to a different variant? >>> > > >>> > > yup >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -M >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> >>> > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> What do you mean with both ? >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>> > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com >>> <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> is it possible to do both? >>> > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes >>> for the device >>> > >>> metadata.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, >>> all its installations >>> > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are >>> interested in collecting data.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be >>> interested in keeping the data >>> > >>> around, a bit .... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I am not sure... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -Matthias >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -- >>> > >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >>> >>> > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >>> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >> >>> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Matthias Wessendorf >>> > > >>> > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

i think that is their business logical and if they want to save something, they should be doing a database trigger or something,

On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: We should probably find out _why_ people might want to keep those records, and help them more appropriately in a nice way. That was the point I was trying to make. If we can't find any reasons, delete everything. Hylke On 22/11/2013 15:40, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > the admin ui is just one example, you could also use cURL. > > the problem is that the database will start to get a shit ton of > orphaned records if we don't have an option to cascade a delete > Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the things? If folks really want to 'safe' data (e.g. device metadata), they would be requesting that ? -Matthias > > > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > Then can you tell me the reasons why you'd want to do this? > If I'm interested in sending push notifications, why would I be > interested in database table rows? > > Just trying to figure out what problem you're actually trying to address > here, before cluttering the UI with extra things. :) > > Hylke > > On 22/11/2013 15:04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> I don't think a dialog here is a very elegant solution. If the usecase >> is to preserve the data for potential stats, >> > > not at all - it's about deleting the entities from the database - or not > > >> we should provide a nice way to view stats about push notifications, >> and not bother people with an implementation detail of the admin UI. >> > > not about stats at all; > > >> >> >> Hylke >> >> >> >> >> On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko <kpiwko(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke [checkbox] >>> option >>> provided from REST API as well? >>> >> >> yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the message to the >> server >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 >>> Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>> > That sounds good >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist < >>> lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a >>> variant, >>> > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a >>> "remove all >>> > >> installations" checkbox or something >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: >>> > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or >>> would >>> > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? >>> > > >>> > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a >>> trigger on >>> > > DELETE then thats there responsibility >>> > > >>> > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some >>> admin can >>> > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) >>> > > "relocate" them to a different variant? >>> > > >>> > > yup >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -M >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> >>> > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>> matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> What do you mean with both ? >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>> > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> is it possible to do both? >>> > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf < >>> matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device >>> > >>> metadata.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its >>> installations >>> > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting >>> data.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping >>> the data >>> > >>> around, a bit .... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I am not sure... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -Matthias >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -- >>> > >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >>> >>> > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >>> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Matthias Wessendorf >>> > >> >>> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Matthias Wessendorf >>> > > >>> > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > aerogear-dev mailing list >>> > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

i think that is their business logical and if they want to save something, they should be doing a database trigger or something,

On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: > We should probably find out _why_ people might want to keep those > records, and help them more appropriately in a nice way. That was the > point I was trying to make. If we can't find any reasons, delete > everything. > > Hylke > > On 22/11/2013 15:40, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Lucas Holmquist >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> the admin ui is just one example, you could also use cURL. >> >> the problem is that the database will start to get a shit ton >> of orphaned records if we don't have an option to cascade a delete >> >> >> >> Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the things? >> >> If folks really want to 'safe' data (e.g. device metadata), they >> would be requesting that ? >> >> -Matthias >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com >> <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >>> Then can you tell me the reasons why you'd want to do this? >>> If I'm interested in sending push notifications, why would I be >>> interested in database table rows? >>> >>> Just trying to figure out what problem you're actually trying >>> to address here, before cluttering the UI with extra things. :) >>> >>> Hylke >>> >>> On 22/11/2013 15:04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com >>>> <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't think a dialog here is a very elegant solution. If >>>> the usecase is to preserve the data for potential stats, >>>> >>>> >>>> not at all - it's about deleting the entities from the >>>> database - or not >>>> >>>> we should provide a nice way to view stats about push >>>> notifications, and not bother people with an >>>> implementation detail of the admin UI. >>>> >>>> >>>> not about stats at all; >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hylke >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko >>>>> <kpiwko(a)redhat.com <mailto:kpiwko@redhat.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I like the proposal, one question though: Will the >>>>> nuke [checkbox] option >>>>> provided from REST API as well? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the >>>>> message to the server >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org >>>>> <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > That sounds good >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>>>> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>>>> > > wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>>>> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui >>>>> and you delete a variant, >>>>> > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog >>>>> could include a "remove all >>>>> > >> installations" checkbox or something >>>>> > >> >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: >>>>> > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that >>>>> information? (or would >>>>> > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS >>>>> table)? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants >>>>> to setup a trigger on >>>>> > > DELETE then thats there responsibility >>>>> > > >>>>> > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? >>>>> (so that some admin can >>>>> > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references >>>>> to kinda (manually) >>>>> > > "relocate" them to a different variant? >>>>> > > >>>>> > > yup >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -M >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> What do you mean with both ? >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist >>>>> > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com >>>>> <mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com>>wrote: >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >>> is it possible to do both? >>>>> > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias >>>>> Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> >>>>> > >>> wrote: >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading >>>>> deletes for the device >>>>> > >>> metadata.... >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, >>>>> all its installations >>>>> > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are >>>>> interested in collecting data.... >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be >>>>> interested in keeping the data >>>>> > >>> around, a bit .... >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> I am not sure... >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> -Matthias >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> -- >>>>> > >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>> > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>> > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> -- >>>>> > >> Matthias Wessendorf >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>>>> > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>>>> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> > >> aerogear-dev mailing 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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko <kpiwko(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I like the proposal, one question though: Will the nuke [checkbox] option > provided from REST API as well? > yep :-) Otherwise I don't know how the UI would get the message to the server

> > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100 > Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > That sounds good > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui(a)redhat.com > >wrote: > > > > > >> i guess i'm think if you are using the admin ui and you delete a > variant, > > >> the "are you sure you want to delete" dialog could include a "remove > all > > >> installations" checkbox or something > > >> > > > > > > Ah - that would be an interesting option; > > > > > > > > > Assuming we have that checkbox-thingy...: > > > * Does clicking it mean we really nuke all that information? (or would > > > that mean they are moved to a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)? > > > > > > i say just NUKE em, if the database person wants to setup a trigger on > > > DELETE then thats there responsibility > > > > > > * Does not clicking mean they stay on that table? (so that some admin > can > > > do the manual SQL fu for updating FK references to kinda (manually) > > > "relocate" them to a different variant? > > > > > > yup > > > > > > > > > > > > -M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> What do you mean with both ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist > > >> <lholmqui(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > > >> > > >>> is it possible to do both? > > >>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was wondering if we should do cascading deletes for the device > > >>> metadata.... > > >>> > > >>> So, right now, when you are deleting a variant, all its installations > > >>> are NOT nuked, which helps when you are interested in collecting > data.... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> However we could nuke em, not sure.... > > >>> > > >>> Or... should we move them into a "DELETED" table? > > >>> > > >>> Users of the UnifiedPush Server might be interested in keeping the > data > > >>> around, a bit .... > > >>> > > >>> I am not sure... > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -Matthias > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Matthias Wessendorf > > >>> > > >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Matthias Wessendorf > > >> > > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> aerogear-dev mailing list > > >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >