Hello, a few weeks ago, I started to create a (clickable) MockUp for our Admin UI. https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 It is (currently) based on Bootstrap, because of my 'awesome' CSS/Design skillz. However, the cover the functionality. Any thoughts about these? I am also interested in moving them forward, to that we can give the PushEE server an UI :) Thanks, Matthias -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

Hi, I don't feel confident enough to comment on these right now as I'm currently trying to learn more about how AeroGear and push notifications work, but hopefully I wil be able to soon. :) What are the requirements/functionalities that you've based this work on? A few usecases might be helpful too, so we can have a better view on what you're trying to design here. Thanks, Hylke On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas Holmquist wrote: they look pretty good. i'm sure once we start implementing it, there will be tweaks. not sure if this is important at this point, but will this Admin UI also receive notifications, like when someone starts the installed app for the first time and registers their device token? On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: Hello, a few weeks ago, I started to create a (clickable) MockUp for our Admin UI. https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 It is (currently) based on Bootstrap, because of my 'awesome' CSS/Design skillz. However, the cover the functionality. Any thoughts about these? I am also interested in moving them forward, to that we can give the PushEE server an UI :) Thanks, Matthias -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

Yes, that's great! Thanks, Hylke On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hylke, here is a "spec", which has use-cases, scenarios of the Server Usage: http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ Let me know if that is good enough On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Hi, I don't feel confident enough to comment on these right now as I'm currently trying to learn more about how AeroGear and push notifications work, but hopefully I wil be able to soon. :) What are the requirements/functionalities that you've based this work on? A few usecases might be helpful too, so we can have a better view on what you're trying to design here. Thanks, Hylke On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas Holmquist wrote: they look pretty good. i'm sure once we start implementing it, there will be tweaks. not sure if this is important at this point, but will this Admin UI also receive notifications, like when someone starts the installed app for the first time and registers their device token? On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: Hello, a few weeks ago, I started to create a (clickable) MockUp for our Admin UI. https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 It is (currently) based on Bootstrap, because of my 'awesome' CSS/Design skillz. However, the cover the functionality. Any thoughts about these? I am also interested in moving them forward, to that we can give the PushEE server an UI :) Thanks, Matthias -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: <http://twitter.com/mwessendorf>

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: > Will the adminui provides UI to send notification message? > It could be useful for testing purpose. > Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a JIRA ? > Or another use case could be to send automatic - rule triggerred > - messages. > Nope. If the business logic wants to "schedule" jobs, to send messages, it can do it. But not inside of the admin UI. See also: http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > Corinne > > > On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote: > >> Yes, that's great! >> Thanks, >> >> Hylke >> >> >> >> On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >> >> Hylke, >> >> here is a "spec", which has use-cases, scenarios of the Server Usage: >> http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ >> >> >> Let me know if that is good enough >> >> >> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't feel confident enough to comment on these right now as I'm >> currently trying to learn more about how AeroGear and push notifications >> work, but hopefully I wil be able to soon. :) >> >> What are the requirements/functionalities that you've based this work >> on? A few usecases might be helpful too, so we can have a better view on >> what you're trying to design here. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Hylke >> >> >> >> On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas Holmquist wrote: >> >> they look pretty good. >> >> i'm sure once we start implementing it, there will be tweaks. >> >> >> not sure if this is important at this point, but will this Admin UI >> also receive notifications, like when someone starts the installed app for >> the first time and registers their device token? >> >> >> >> On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> a few weeks ago, I started to create a (clickable) MockUp for our >> Admin UI. >> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 >> >> It is (currently) based on Bootstrap, because of my 'awesome' >> CSS/Design skillz. >> >> However, the cover the functionality. >> >> Any thoughts about these? I am also interested in moving them forward, >> to that we can give the PushEE server an UI :) >> >> Thanks, >> Matthias >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: <http://twitter.com/mwessendorf> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

perfect, thanks! On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38 for this (optional) 1.2.0 feature On 24 May 2013 08:01, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Will the adminui provides UI to send notification message? It could be useful for testing purpose. Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a JIRA ? Or another use case could be to send automatic - rule triggerred - messages. Nope. If the business logic wants to "schedule" jobs, to send messages, it can do it. But not inside of the admin UI. See also: http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ Corinne On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote: Yes, that's great! Thanks, Hylke On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > Hylke, > > > here is a "spec", which has > use-cases, scenarios of the Server > Usage: > http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > > > > Let me know if that is good enough > > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, > Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Hi, > > I don't feel confident > enough to comment on these > right now as I'm currently > trying to learn more about > how AeroGear and push > notifications work, but > hopefully I wil be able to > soon. :) > > What are the > requirements/functionalities > that you've based this work > on? A few usecases might be > helpful too, so we can have > a better view on what you're > trying to design here. > > Thanks, > > Hylke > > > > On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas > Holmquist wrote: > > > they look pretty good. > > > > > > i'm sure once we start > > implementing it, there > > will be tweaks. > > > > > > > > > > not sure if this is > > important at this point, > > but will this Admin UI > > also receive > > notifications, like when > > someone starts the > > installed app for the > > first time and registers > > their device token? > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 > > AM, Matthias Wessendorf > > <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > a few weeks ago, I > > > started to create a > > > (clickable) MockUp for > > > our Admin UI. > > > > > > > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 > > > > > > > > > It is (currently) based > > > on Bootstrap, because of > > > my 'awesome' CSS/Design > > > skillz. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the cover the > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about > > > these? I am also > > > interested in moving > > > them forward, to that we > > > can give the PushEE > > > server an UI :) > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > blog: > > > http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > sessions: > > > http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > twitter: _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Apostolos Emmanouilidis < aemmanou(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > In my opinion, adding a UI to send notification message will make the > Admin UI quite complex. If the users are able to send notification > messages from the UI they should also be able to receive the feedback > information from the Push Notification servers. > I agree, since I am also not a fan of sending messages from the UI. However folks keep asking, so I asked for that JIRA. this will, for sure, not be included in the first release; > > For example Apple mentions that "APNs has a feedback service that > maintains a per-application list of devices for which there were > failed-delivery attempts (that is, APNs was unable to deliver a push > notification to an application on a device). Periodically, the provider > should connect with the feedback service to see what devices have > persistent failures so that it can refrain from sending push > notifications to them." > Not needed. We have a ticket that we need a "scheduled" job to receive invalid from the network(s), in order to perform the "tidy-up": https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-45 Even _if_ we would do the SEND from the UI, the job (AGPUSH-45) would still be the only one, responsible for that "tidy-up". No need to stick this "request feedback" into the UI

> > This means that extra functionality will be required, like the > synchronization of the tokens. The "inactive" tokens should be removed > or marked as "token to be deleted" and let the admin user decide whether > they will be deleted or not. > > > On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 10:18 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > perfect, thanks! > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Corinne Krych > > <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38 > > > > > > for this (optional) 1.2.0 feature > > > > > > > > > > On 24 May 2013 08:01, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych > > <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Will the adminui provides UI to send > > notification message? > > It could be useful for testing purpose. > > > > > > Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a > > JIRA ? > > > > > > > > Or another use case could be to send automatic > > - rule triggerred - messages. > > > > > > > > > > Nope. If the business logic wants to "schedule" jobs, > > to send messages, it can do it. > > But not inside of the admin UI. See also: > > > http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > > > > > > > > Corinne > > > > > > On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote: > > Yes, that's great! > > Thanks, > > > > Hylke > > > > > > > > On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias > > Wessendorf wrote: > > > > > Hylke, > > > > > > > > > here is a "spec", which has > > > use-cases, scenarios of the Server > > > Usage: > > > > http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if that is good enough > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, > > > Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I don't feel confident > > > enough to comment on these > > > right now as I'm currently > > > trying to learn more about > > > how AeroGear and push > > > notifications work, but > > > hopefully I wil be able to > > > soon. :) > > > > > > What are the > > > requirements/functionalities > > > that you've based this work > > > on? A few usecases might be > > > helpful too, so we can have > > > a better view on what you're > > > trying to design here. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Hylke > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas > > > Holmquist wrote: > > > > > > > they look pretty good. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm sure once we start > > > > implementing it, there > > > > will be tweaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure if this is > > > > important at this point, > > > > but will this Admin UI > > > > also receive > > > > notifications, like when > > > > someone starts the > > > > installed app for the > > > > first time and registers > > > > their device token? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 > > > > AM, Matthias Wessendorf > > > > <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a few weeks ago, I > > > > > started to create a > > > > > (clickable) MockUp for > > > > > our Admin UI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is (currently) based > > > > > on Bootstrap, because of > > > > > my 'awesome' CSS/Design > > > > > skillz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the cover the > > > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about > > > > > these? I am also > > > > > interested in moving > > > > > them forward, to that we > > > > > can give the PushEE > > > > > server an UI :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > > > > > blog: > > > > > > http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > > > sessions: > > > > > > http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > > > twitter: > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > > aerogear-dev mailing list > > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Apostolos Emmanouilidis <aemmanou(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: In my opinion, adding a UI to send notification message will make the Admin UI quite complex. If the users are able to send notification messages from the UI they should also be able to receive the feedback information from the Push Notification servers. I agree, since I am also not a fan of sending messages from the UI. However folks keep asking, so I asked for that JIRA. this will, for sure, not be included in the first release; For example Apple mentions that "APNs has a feedback service that maintains a per-application list of devices for which there were failed-delivery attempts (that is, APNs was unable to deliver a push notification to an application on a device). Periodically, the provider should connect with the feedback service to see what devices have persistent failures so that it can refrain from sending push notifications to them." Not needed. We have a ticket that we need a "scheduled" job to receive invalid from the network(s), in order to perform the "tidy-up": https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-45 Even _if_ we would do the SEND from the UI, the job (AGPUSH-45) would still be the only one, responsible for that "tidy-up". No need to stick this "request feedback" into the UI Besides a simple field to schedule the actual "interval" :) This means that extra functionality will be required, like the synchronization of the tokens. The "inactive" tokens should be removed or marked as "token to be deleted" and let the admin user decide whether they will be deleted or not. On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 10:18 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > perfect, thanks! > > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Corinne Krych > <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38 > > > for this (optional) 1.2.0 feature > > > > > On 24 May 2013 08:01, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; > wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych > <corinnekrych(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Will the adminui provides UI to send > notification message? > It could be useful for testing purpose. > > > Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a > JIRA ? > > > > Or another use case could be to send automatic > - rule triggerred - messages. > > > > > Nope. If the business logic wants to "schedule" jobs, > to send messages, it can do it. > But not inside of the admin UI. See also: > http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > > > Corinne > > > On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote: > Yes, that's great! > Thanks, > > Hylke > > > > On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias > Wessendorf wrote: > > > Hylke, > > > > > > here is a "spec", which has > > use-cases, scenarios of the Server > > Usage: > > http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know if that is good enough > > > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM, > > Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't feel confident > > enough to comment on these > > right now as I'm currently > > trying to learn more about > > how AeroGear and push > > notifications work, but > > hopefully I wil be able to > > soon. :) > > > > What are the > > requirements/functionalities > > that you've based this work > > on? A few usecases might be > > helpful too, so we can have > > a better view on what you're > > trying to design here. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Hylke > > > > > > > > On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas > > Holmquist wrote: > > > > > they look pretty good. > > > > > > > > > i'm sure once we start > > > implementing it, there > > > will be tweaks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not sure if this is > > > important at this point, > > > but will this Admin UI > > > also receive > > > notifications, like when > > > someone starts the > > > installed app for the > > > first time and registers > > > their device token? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2013, at 8:43 > > > AM, Matthias Wessendorf > > > <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > a few weeks ago, I > > > > started to create a > > > > (clickable) MockUp for > > > > our Admin UI. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170 > > > > > > > > > > > > It is (currently) based > > > > on Bootstrap, because of > > > > my 'awesome' CSS/Design > > > > skillz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, the cover the > > > > functionality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts about > > > > these? I am also > > > > interested in moving > > > > them forward, to that we > > > > can give the PushEE > > > > server an UI :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > > > blog: > > > > http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > > sessions: > > > > http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > > twitter: > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev