On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Summers Pittman <supittma(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/05/2015 02:24 PM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
While working on the doc for AGPUSH-1258, I found this in Apple's "iOS
Developer Program License Agreement":
Further, as a condition to using the APN, You agree not to transmit
sensitive personal or confidential information belonging to an individual
(e.g. a social security number, financial account or transactional
information, or any information where the individual may have a reasonable
expectation of secure transmission) as part of any Push Notification, and
You agree to comply with any applicable notice or consent requirements with
respect to any collection, transmission, maintenance, processing or use of
an end user’s personal information.
That means, if an app-developer sends something like "Your blood
donation appointment is tomorrow" to a user of his mobile app, the
app-developer is breaking the Apple terms _and_ the law in a lot of
countries (at least in all EU countries) :-)
What we have to remember is that large amounts of information in aggregate
can become personally identifying even if any individual message is not.
So the law in this case doesn't help since it is only the data in context
which becomes personally identifying or protected.
I don't think anyone is advocating for sending sensitive information via
push, but what we are advocating is not putting a big target on our (or our
user's) backs out of the gate by storing all of the messages by default.
Only the alert is stored (PR has been merged) . But, and this is just an
idea that just popped out, couldn't we encrypt the value of the alert that
is stored? It could be by default or a config thingy ...
> BTW. for Google I don't seem to find a similar paragraph, but IMO they
> are not that thoughtful on privacy terms (compared to Apple).
> Now, for our UPS guide (or documentation), I will add a few sentences to
> make it clear that our app-developers should NEVER submit sensitive
> personal or confidential information with a push.
> push we store, for analytic reasons.
> You'll see a PR during my Friday.
> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>
>> I have created AGPUSH-1257 and AGPUSH-1258
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org>
>>> earlier this week there was some discussion about storing the payload of
>>> the push notifications ().
>>> Right now, we store some metrics (e.g. client that send the push, number
>>> of devices, deliveryStatus etc) *and* the entire content of push
>>> notification. This includes custom key/value pairs, the name of the sound
>>> file or even the size of the badge.
>>> Is all of that, storing the entire push notification payload really
>>> needed? *No!*
>>> What do we need, and why?
>>> For counting the number of sent pushes (over time), the metrics are good
>>> enough. We do *NOT* need any of the push content for that, that's
>>> But we want to do more on the 1.1.0 release. We want to introduce some
>>> analytic features, to give our app developers (our users) a better
>>> understanding of their push usage (see ).
>>> In order to see details on how successful a push was (or not), we need
>>> to only store the value of the alert key:
>>> Ok, let's change that (see )!
>>> For our app developers, using the UPS to reach out to their mobile app
>>> users ("user engagement"), it's important to understand which
push was more
>>> - "Get 10% discount today" (sent on a Monday)
>>> - "Our shop got new site, check it out and get 5% discount"
>>> a Friday)
>>> With the upcoming analytics we can help them to improve usage of their
>>> app. User interaction is very important to a successful mobile application
>>> and push is a key driver here! Our app developers want an app that is
>>> actively used by their users (Nobody wants his app sitting on the last page
>>> of the device or, even worse, in a folder together with Apple-Maps).
>>> Therefore it's critical for our app developers to understand the
>>> of their push messages sent and how it impacts the usage of their app.
>>> That's why we do the analytics described in . And, yes - only the
>>> not the entire payload is needed for that.
>>> On the mentioned PR there was also some discussion about privacy
>>> violations and stuff, when we store the content of the notification. An
>>> example where *sensitive* data was sent over push was given. Something
>>> like: "Dear Mr. Joe, your blood donation appointment was scheduled for
>>> 1. This is not how push notifications are used for mobile apps. Push
>>> is to signal, not carry actual (sensitive) data around.
>>> 2. In a lot of countries, at least almost all European countries,
>>> you are not even allowed, by EU law, to give "data" to 3rd party
>>> (like the push-networks of Microsoft, Apple or Google).
>>> How does the actual (sensitive) data come to an app?
>>> As said above a push is used to signal/ping an app, to indicate that
>>> there is real data for the mobile app user. In the background the mobile
>>> app tries to connect to the backend of the company, running/maintaining the
>>> mobile app. After the real data was fetched, "local notifcations"
>>> to give the user a visible notification, like "Dear Mr. Joe, your blood
>>> donation appointment was scheduled for 3 p.m", or simply "New
>>> If the app was a chat system (and not a blood donation app from the Red
>>> Cross), it would be the same: After a signal, the app connects to "chat
>>> server" and receives the actual chat message from there. A reply would
>>> over the same "chat server" connection. None of this would go over
>>> party push network provider like Google, Microsoft or Apple.
>>> What would we store from these silent notifications?
>>> Nothing, since there is no alert, we would just store the metrics (e.g.
>>> client that send the push, number of devices, deliveryStatus etc). If the
>>> signaling is actually done with an alert (e.g. alert:"you got a new
>>> text" or "New appointment scheduled"), we would store that.
>>> I hope this helps a bit to understand what is stored and also why we do
>>> need a little bit of information.
>>> BTW. our documentation already says that push is used for signaling, not
>>> carrying actual data around, but based on this email I will update it to
>>> have explicit information on best practices. Also, the documentation will
>>> be clear about what (the alert only) is stored by the UPS, and why. (see
>>> - 
>>> -  https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-971
>>> -  JIRA TO CREATE: to only store ALERT and not the full payload
>>> -  JIRA TO CREATE: update doc regarding push message storage and
>>> best practices
>>> Matthias Wessendorf
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>> Matthias Wessendorf
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