Re: [jbosscache-dev] Updated to commons-logging 1.1.1 (for now...)

I don't think it's anything simple. See, for example, what Stan Silvert (copied) had to do to deal with the fact that a JSF impl used java.util.logging: https://svn.jboss.org/repos/jbossas/trunk/tomcat/src/main/org/jboss/web/j... Jason T. Greene wrote: > Sounds good. I will look into how AS is mapping that now, in the past > you had to enable a special log appender. > > Manik Surtani wrote: >> I'd rather go with JDK logging then. IIRC, jboss-logging can >> intercept JDK logging events and log to the preferred engine, and >> this means fewer jars and NO DIRECT dependency on a lousy logging jar! >> >> >> On 18 Aug 2008, at 18:47, Jason T. Greene wrote: >> >>> The last time this was discussed, the collective answer is that >>> jboss logging is the preferred wrapper framework, since we control >>> its destiny, but that the AS would add adapters for all popular >>> frameworks. For example, hibernate's decision *cough* mistake >>> *cough* lead to work on an sl4j adapter. >>> >>> JDK logging is also acceptable, since it's the standard one. >>> >>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>> I think JGroups is the only one. I think we need to sort out some >>>> sort of logging standard for JBoss. Who wants to bell THAT cat, >>>> now? :-) >>>> On 18 Aug 2008, at 14:57, Bela Ban wrote: >>>>> I agree on the insanity of it all. Good that JGroups is not the >>>>> only dep which requires you to suck in commons-logging... :-) >>>>> >>>>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>>>> It *is* commons logging. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16 Aug 2008, at 09:12, Bela Ban wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually, which logging library does JBossCache use today ? I >>>>>>> thought it was commons-logging... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason T. Greene wrote: >>>>>>>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <SNIP /> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hmm, another jar dep. We need commons logging anyway for >>>>>>>>> JGroups. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately I already have to include JBoss Logging since AOP >>>>>>>> uses it. >>>>>> >>>>>> For chrissake. Why on earth is LOGGING of all things such a >>>>>> challenge? So this means using JBC with Hibernate will NOW need >>>>>> commons logging (JBC, JGroups), jboss logging (AOP) and slf4j >>>>>> (Hibernate), and all the while the JDK provides logging as >>>>>> well?!? This is insane. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Manik Surtani >>>>>> Lead, JBoss Cache >>>>>> manik(a)jboss.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bela Ban >>>>> Lead JGroups / Clustering Team >>>>> JBoss - a division of Red Hat >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Manik Surtani >>>> Lead, JBoss Cache >>>> manik(a)jboss.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jason T. Greene >>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat >> >> -- >> Manik Surtani >> Lead, JBoss Cache >> manik(a)jboss.org >> >> >> >> > >