Re: [jbosscache-dev] Updated to commons-logging 1.1.1 (for now...)

Sounds good. I will look into how AS is mapping that now, in the past you had to enable a special log appender. Manik Surtani wrote: > I'd rather go with JDK logging then. IIRC, jboss-logging can > intercept JDK logging events and log to the preferred engine, and this > means fewer jars and NO DIRECT dependency on a lousy logging jar! > > > On 18 Aug 2008, at 18:47, Jason T. Greene wrote: > >> The last time this was discussed, the collective answer is that jboss >> logging is the preferred wrapper framework, since we control its >> destiny, but that the AS would add adapters for all popular >> frameworks. For example, hibernate's decision *cough* mistake *cough* >> lead to work on an sl4j adapter. >> >> JDK logging is also acceptable, since it's the standard one. >> >> Manik Surtani wrote: >>> I think JGroups is the only one. I think we need to sort out some >>> sort of logging standard for JBoss. Who wants to bell THAT cat, >>> now? :-) >>> On 18 Aug 2008, at 14:57, Bela Ban wrote: >>>> I agree on the insanity of it all. Good that JGroups is not the >>>> only dep which requires you to suck in commons-logging... :-) >>>> >>>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>>> It *is* commons logging. >>>>> >>>>> On 16 Aug 2008, at 09:12, Bela Ban wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Actually, which logging library does JBossCache use today ? I >>>>>> thought it was commons-logging... >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason T. Greene wrote: >>>>>>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <SNIP /> >>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm, another jar dep. We need commons logging anyway for JGroups. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately I already have to include JBoss Logging since AOP >>>>>>> uses it. >>>>> >>>>> For chrissake. Why on earth is LOGGING of all things such a >>>>> challenge? So this means using JBC with Hibernate will NOW need >>>>> commons logging (JBC, JGroups), jboss logging (AOP) and slf4j >>>>> (Hibernate), and all the while the JDK provides logging as >>>>> well?!? This is insane. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Manik Surtani >>>>> Lead, JBoss Cache >>>>> manik(a)jboss.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bela Ban >>>> Lead JGroups / Clustering Team >>>> JBoss - a division of Red Hat >>>> >>> -- >>> Manik Surtani >>> Lead, JBoss Cache >>> manik(a)jboss.org >> >> >> -- >> Jason T. Greene >> JBoss, a division of Red Hat > > -- > Manik Surtani > Lead, JBoss Cache > manik(a)jboss.org > > > >