BTW, this JMX discussion also has impact on PojoCache as I am using Cache as a delegate now. Besides the Cache management attributes, I'd like to expose parts of PojoCache attributes as well. So I'd imagine that PojoCache should look for the Cache bean service when configured under AS, e.g. How does everyone see it? -Ben -----Original Message----- From: jbosscache-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto:jbosscache-dev- bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Manik Surtani Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:36 PM To: Bela Ban Cc: jbosscache-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Subject: Re: [jbosscache-dev] JMX and MBeans in JBoss Cache 2.0.0 Can't you register model MBeans programatically rather than via XML? Basically what I am thinking is an MBeanRegistrar class that inspects your interceptor stack, and has a hardcoded list of reflect.Methods to expose for each known interceptor type. Sure, it means one clunky class that does all of this but is this better than a dozen *MBean interfaces? Cheers, -- Manik Surtani Lead, JBoss Cache JBoss, a division of Red Hat Email: manik(a)jboss.org Telephone: +44 7786 702 706 MSN: manik(a)surtani.org Yahoo/AIM/Skype: maniksurtani On 6 Sep 2006, at 22:30, Bela Ban wrote: > I already use model MBeans to expose certain JGroups services, e.g. > GossipRouter and Multiplexer. It geta bit unwieldy though, with all > the verbose XML... How do you suppose to expose interceptors ? I > think the big problem is that we need to dynamically expose > (=register) them at stack startup time ? > > Manik Surtani wrote: >> Hi guys. >> >> Rather than wrestle with MBean interfaces and also add clutter to >> the various interfaces we have - and also to support future >> exposure of interceptors, etc. to JMX, what do you think of using >> Model MBeans instead of Standard MBeans? >> >> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/javax/management/ >> modelmbean/package-summary.html >> >> Now I'm no JMX expert and I may be talking nonsense here so feel >> free to tear this apart. Brian, how would something like this >> work for you since AS clustering gets cache references from JMX? >> Do we still need to extend ServiceMBean in AS5? >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Manik Surtani >> >> Lead, JBoss Cache >> JBoss, a division of Red Hat >> >> Email: manik(a)jboss.org >> Telephone: +44 7786 702 706 >> MSN: manik(a)surtani.org >> Yahoo/AIM/Skype: maniksurtani >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosscache-dev mailing list >> jbosscache-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosscache-dev >> > > -- > Bela Ban > Lead JGroups / Manager JBoss Clustering Group > JBoss - a division of Red Hat > _______________________________________________ jbosscache-dev mailing list jbosscache-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosscache-dev