Ronald: You could interpret more charitably. I have indeed searched the forums and the length and breadth of the internet. Perhaps I need a custom hibernate query. Maybe somebody has already thought this through and would share it with the rest of us (saving me a bit of trouble). As I am happy to to do when I can help others. Thanks. Rob View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4261383#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...